gigagooga on 29/9/2012 at 21:17
i get super exited when i think about all these new opportunities, i feel like a 10 yo at christmas :cheeky:
im actualy planing on dropping out from that halloween contest and focus on our new DromEd.
hmmm.. what should i start to make... skyrim 2?
242 on 30/9/2012 at 09:56
Is it now possible to make a really large forest without sectioning it, like in Gothic 2 f.e.? Or there still is some kind of obstacle?
Ricebug on 30/9/2012 at 10:22
Quote Posted by 242
Is it now possible to make a really large forest without sectioning it, like in Gothic 2 f.e.? Or there still is some kind of obstacle?
Yes. But there's always a limit. Here's a paste from the included
modders_notes.txt:
Quote:
Max concrete object IDs: 8192 (from 4096)
Max visible objects: 1280 (from 128)
Max texture dimension: 4096 (from 1024)
Max texture animation frames: 99 (from 20)
Max drawn terrain polys: 20480 (from 1024)
Max ambient sound objects: 1024 (from 256)
Max cells for bounding sphere spatial queries: 1024 (from 512)
Max cells a dynamic light can reach: 1024 (from 512)
Max portal clip regions: 20480 (from 2048)
Max characters per cfg-file line: 8192 (from 80)
Max display resolution: <unlimited>x4800 (actual limit depends on HW) DX9 / 2048x2048 DX6 (from 1024x768)
Max brushes: 16384 (from 7068)
Max regions (/ worldrep (WR) cells): 32760 (from 28672)
Max rooms: 4096 (from 1024)
Max AI path cells: 131070 (from 65534)
Max texture families: 32 (from 16)
Max family textures: 1024-ish (from 256-ish)
Max static lights: 2016 (from 736)
Max cells a static/anim light can reach: 8192 (from 512)
Max anim light to cell pairings: 49152 (from 16384)
Max brush faces/sides: 28 (from 12)
Max decals per page on Thief maps: 256 (from 64)
242 on 30/9/2012 at 10:38
Hmm,
Max visible objects: 1280 (from 128)
Max drawn terrain polys: 20480 (from 1024)
Why 1280 and 20480, why not 12800 and 204800, I mean may be it's still not enough in some cases... or 1280/20480 would be like 3 frames/sec even on the most modern hardware?
DrK on 30/9/2012 at 11:18
To be honest, 20480 and 1280 are pretty huge already, it's gonna take some time before someone actually reaches these limits.
However I just noticed something :
Quote:
Max regions (/ worldrep (WR) cells): 32760 (from 28672)
That's disapointing compared to the rest. The cells limit is the one I'm having the most trouble with. In all my Rocksbourg missions, I've hit this limit pretty fast, and I'm always on the edge trying to stay below the limit. You add one cylinder somewhere and the cells account can grow up pretty fast, it's kinda random.
So the fact we can have more polys, more brushes & stuff, it's not really gonna help because the cell limit will become THE problem for everyone now...
Or maybe I misread it.
intruder on 30/9/2012 at 14:26
I was thinking almost the same. This is why I like to find out how easily you can reach this limit, before digging deeper into the other improvements.
Right now, I'm expanding the Life of the Party OM by merging it with two other rooftop missions. I changed the layout of the mission in a way, that Angelwatch is visible from all places within Dayport, which is pretty neat :)
Nameless Voice on 30/9/2012 at 18:07
Quote:
Max regions (/ worldrep (WR) cells): 32760 (from 28672)
I wonder why this was only increased by such a small amount?
32760 seems awfully close to the maximum value for a signed 16-bit integer.
Xorak on 30/9/2012 at 21:48
I'm already fighting the new max-cell limit, but I think I can manage to stay under it.
I think having an ultimate limit is good, I do wish it was a little higher though.
Shole on 30/9/2012 at 22:04
Quote Posted by Independent Thief
Over 2000 polys! I like this! :D
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nostromo?
