did I miss something??? thief 1.19???

Ottoj55 on 27/9/2012 at 13:13

and i just finished a new 256x256 texture set for my mission. guess i can redo it without compression. whats the playability like on various pcs? mine is actually a little older, and dromed always revs my fans up.

LarryG on 27/9/2012 at 13:25

Quote Posted by Independent Thief

Just did a clean install of T2 and unzipped the patch and tried dromed, but it freezes up-any hints on what's going wrong?

Not a clue. Nothing was written to monolog? There's also this new log that I've seen is getting written, DromEd.log. Why don't you post those logs and anything else that looks diagnostic.

Ottoj55 on 27/9/2012 at 13:35

has anyone imported a multibrush from 1.18 yet or opened a 1.18 .mis file in 1.19? just want to know what kind of issues i'll have.

intruder on 27/9/2012 at 13:48

Importing a multibrush from 1.18 to 1.19 works like a charm. I've been playing around with this feature for two days and haven't encountered any oddities.
Same for loading 1.18-missions into 1.19-DromEd.

According to the readme, loading a 1.19-mission into 1.18-DromEd is likely to cause trouble. I didn't check what happens when you do this with 1.19-multibrushs.

Independent Thief on 27/9/2012 at 13:54

Quote Posted by LarryG

Not a clue. Nothing was written to monolog? There's also this new log that I've seen is getting written, DromEd.log. Why don't you post those logs and anything else that looks diagnostic.

Here goes, dromed.log

: CPU: arch=x86-64 , fam=586 , cpus=2
: SIMD: SSE=2 , 3DNow=1
: OS Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3
: Desktop resolution: 1600 x 900
: Virtual desktop resolution: 1600 x 900
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: CWD: C:\Thief2v1.19
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: App Version: DromEd Final 1.19 MSVC opt playtest
: --------------------- misc config -------------------------
: resname_base C:\Thief2v1.19\res
: load_path C:\Thief2v1.19
: script_module_path C:\Thief2v1.19
: movie_path C:\Thief2v1.19\movies
: install_path C:\Thief2v1.19
: game_screen_size 1600 900
: game_screen_depth 32
: game_screen_flags 45
: game_full_screen 1
: game_hardware 1
: single_display_mode 2
: ui_scale_mode 2
: use_d3d_display
: framerate_cap 100.0
: SlowFrame 4
: SlowFrameUI 10
: force_32bit
: force_32bit_textures
: mipmap_mode 2
: lm_mipmap_mode 0
: lm_init_texmem 2
: lm_filter_margin 1
: disable_lightmap_aniso
: tex_edge_padding 2
: alpha_test_as_opaque
: d3d_disp_enable_distortionfx
: sfx_device 1
: sfx_channels 12
: sfx_vol_music -474
: sfx_vol_2d 0
: sfx_vol_3d 0
: game dark
: obj_min -8192
: obj_max 2400
: max_refs 14000
: gui_font editor\textfont
: enhanced_sky 1
: skip_intro
: z_far 512
: wr_render_zcomp
: render_weapon_particles
: legacy_force_match_unrefs 0
: dark_zcomp_arm
: edit_screen_depth 16
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: Enumerating D3D9 adapters (1)...
: Adapter 0
: device name: \\.\DISPLAY1
: driver : nv4_disp.dll
: descr : NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
: driver ver : 0x0006000E-000D008E
: vendor id : 0x000010DE
: device id : 0x00000640
: subsys id : 0xC9593842
: device guid: D7B71E3E-4500-11CF-7C5B-54E900C2
: Modes
: 640 x 480 x 16
: 720 x 480 x 16
: 720 x 576 x 16
: 800 x 600 x 16
: 1024 x 768 x 16
: 1152 x 864 x 16
: 1280 x 720 x 16
: 1280 x 768 x 16
: 1280 x 800 x 16
: 1360 x 768 x 16
: 1600 x 900 x 16
: 1440 x 900 x 16
: 640 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 576 x 32
: 800 x 600 x 32
: 1024 x 768 x 32
: 1152 x 864 x 32
: 1280 x 720 x 32
: 1280 x 768 x 32
: 1280 x 800 x 32
: 1360 x 768 x 32
: 1600 x 900 x 32
: 1440 x 900 x 32
: Device Validation
: validated ok, device added (0, E390000)
: Enumeration done

Now the thief2.log (T2 game seems to work fine in contrast to dromed..)

: CPU: arch=x86-64 , fam=586 , cpus=2
: SIMD: SSE=2 , 3DNow=1
: OS Version: 5.1.2600 Service Pack 3
: Desktop resolution: 1600 x 900
: Virtual desktop resolution: 1600 x 900
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: CWD: C:\Thief2v1.19
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: App Version: Thief 2 Final 1.19
: --------------------- misc config -------------------------
: resname_base C:\Thief2v1.19\res
: load_path C:\Thief2v1.19
: script_module_path C:\Thief2v1.19
: movie_path C:\Thief2v1.19\movies
: install_path C:\Thief2v1.19
: game_screen_size 1600 900
: game_screen_depth 32
: game_screen_flags 45
: game_full_screen 1
: game_hardware 1
: single_display_mode 2
: ui_scale_mode 2
: use_d3d_display
: framerate_cap 100.0
: SlowFrame 4
: SlowFrameUI 10
: force_32bit
: force_32bit_textures
: mipmap_mode 2
: lm_mipmap_mode 0
: lm_init_texmem 2
: lm_filter_margin 1
: disable_lightmap_aniso
: tex_edge_padding 2
: alpha_test_as_opaque
: d3d_disp_enable_distortionfx
: sfx_device 1
: sfx_channels 12
: sfx_vol_music -474
: sfx_vol_2d 0
: sfx_vol_3d 0
: game dark
: obj_min -8192
: obj_max 2400
: max_refs 14000
: gui_font intrface\smalfont
: enhanced_sky 1
: skip_intro
: z_far 512
: wr_render_zcomp
: render_weapon_particles
: legacy_force_match_unrefs 0
: dark_zcomp_arm
: -----------------------------------------------------------
: Enumerating D3D9 adapters (1)...
: Adapter 0
: device name: \\.\DISPLAY1
: driver : nv4_disp.dll
: descr : NVIDIA GeForce 9500 GT
: driver ver : 0x0006000E-000D008E
: vendor id : 0x000010DE
: device id : 0x00000640
: subsys id : 0xC9593842
: device guid: D7B71E3E-4500-11CF-7C5B-54E900C2
: Modes
: 640 x 480 x 16
: 720 x 480 x 16
: 720 x 576 x 16
: 800 x 600 x 16
: 1024 x 768 x 16
: 1152 x 864 x 16
: 1280 x 720 x 16
: 1280 x 768 x 16
: 1280 x 800 x 16
: 1360 x 768 x 16
: 1600 x 900 x 16
: 1440 x 900 x 16
: 640 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 576 x 32
: 800 x 600 x 32
: 1024 x 768 x 32
: 1152 x 864 x 32
: 1280 x 720 x 32
: 1280 x 768 x 32
: 1280 x 800 x 32
: 1360 x 768 x 32
: 1600 x 900 x 32
: 1440 x 900 x 32
: Device Validation
: validated ok, device added (0, E390000)
: Enumeration done
: D3DProvider: Enumerating adapter 0 modes
: 640 x 480 x 16
: 720 x 480 x 16
: 720 x 576 x 16
: 800 x 600 x 16
: 1024 x 768 x 16
: 1152 x 864 x 16
: 1280 x 720 x 16
: 1280 x 768 x 16
: 1280 x 800 x 16
: 1360 x 768 x 16
: 1600 x 900 x 16
: 1440 x 900 x 16
: 640 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 480 x 32
: 720 x 576 x 32
: 800 x 600 x 32
: 1024 x 768 x 32
: 1152 x 864 x 32
: 1280 x 720 x 32
: 1280 x 768 x 32
: 1280 x 800 x 32
: 1360 x 768 x 32
: 1600 x 900 x 32
: 1440 x 900 x 32
: D3DProvider: Enumeration done
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1600x900x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 0 2D)
: CreateDevice: res = D3D_OK ; 1600x900 fmt=22 zfmt=75 cnt=1 ms=0 swap=1 fs=1 hz=0 pres=1 flags=2
: Loaded script module "miss1"
: Loaded script module "gen"
: Loaded script module "convict"
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1600x900x32 ; mode 1600x900x32 (7 9 1 3D)
: sw framerate cap requested (10000 us)
: D3DProvider StartMode: smode 1600x900x32 ; mode 640x480x32 (5 9 1 2D)

Hope this helps! :p

DrK on 27/9/2012 at 14:16

I just thought about something with dromed 1.19 : would it be possible to add ingame menus in thief 2 now ? Like the ones in system shock 2, you know the inventory, PDAs & stuff.
I remember someone tried it years ago (Zylonbane maybe) but it was close to impossible. Would this new version allow it now ?

I don't have much time to try it out, I mostly focus on my halloween mission. But once I'm done with it, I'll mess around with this new dromed.

The Watcher on 27/9/2012 at 14:25

Quote Posted by Ottoj55

has anyone imported a multibrush from 1.18 yet or opened a 1.18 .mis file in 1.19? just want to know what kind of issues i'll have.

I haven't imported any multibrushes, as we don't see eye to eye, me and them. But I have opened both my Shadowed Mayfield and Xavier's Library missions in it. The only 'problem' I had was that some of my stuff was using ddfix overrides and, all I needed to do was remove the placeholder .gif, replace it with the actual .dds.

R Soul on 27/9/2012 at 14:42

Quote Posted by Independent Thief

Just did a clean install of T2 and unzipped the patch and tried dromed, but it freezes up-any hints on what's going wrong?

Before you installed Dromed 1.19, had you extracted the original Dromed from the zip file?

After trying out the patch I wanted it in a clean install so I wouldn't have old config files from older things like ddfix. Here's what I did:
Installed Thief 2 to a new folder (c:\games\Thief2_119)
Extracted all of the files from Dromed.zip (from one of the T2 CDs, allowing it to overwrite everything)
Installed the Thief 2 1.18 patch (remember this updates mis files and other resources too)
Installed Dromed v1.18 (which was unnecessary because the new patch overwrites it, but never mind)

That's the default installation - no mods or unofficial patches.

edit: Next step: Installed the Dromed Toolkit (menus.cfg and .cmd files)

Then I extracted the contents of the new package, in this order:
new_dark.zip
contrib.zip
editor.zip

Because you have zips within a zip, make sure you extracted the contents of them, rather than the zip files themselves.

intruder on 27/9/2012 at 14:53

I may have to correct my former statement: there seem to be some problems when loading existing missions.

I loaded a 1.18 mission into the 1.19 DromEd and noticed that some objects, rooms, and terrain brushes do not show up in the editor windows.
When I click at their location, I am able to select them and they get highlighted as usual. When I click somewhere else, they "disappear" from the editor windows.
I double-checked that all filters and "Me only"-areas are off. Then, I turned all filters on and off again but they remain hidden. Reloading the mission does not fix the problem.

There is no output on the monolog-console, no warning, nothing.

I opened the same mission in 1.18-DromEd and all objects, brushes, etc. were visible in the editor windows.
That's weird...

LarryG on 27/9/2012 at 14:58

Quote Posted by intruder

Did you try a complete processing in either 16 bit or 32-bit rendering? I had a bunch of stuff missing until I did that and fixed my darkinst,cfg to correctly point at my custom objects and textures.