faetal on 16/2/2012 at 14:50
I just think if someone's got a point, then see if the point stands. If someone has an opinion and basically loads it with the equivalent of "and if you disagree, then you're some kind of whining sissy faggot", then it doesn't magically become a good point.
In this case, anyone in the contrary is a gun hating liberal sissy or a whiny permissive parent evidently.
I guess we should surely be paying attention though so we can learn something about how to be well adjusted.
(PigLick, I got it. Slag hammer.)
Koki on 16/2/2012 at 15:49
Quote Posted by faetal
I just think if someone's got a point, then see if the point stands. If someone has an opinion and basically loads it with the equivalent of "and if you disagree, then you're some kind of whining sissy faggot", then it doesn't magically become a good point.
You do realize there is pretty much no point to be made in this thread right? It's ALL
ramming cocks into people's throats opinionwaving.
But of course you have to be all whining sissy faggot about it and preach from your box.
faetal on 16/2/2012 at 15:55
Well quite, but there are degrees of usefulness and your responses seemed from the outset to be more about being as contrary as possible to the established tone of the thread, which, there's nothing wrong with per se if there are good points being made, but it kind of seems a bit more like you're trying to rub people up the wrong way rather than join in a discussion. Which, I guess is how you roll.
PigLick on 16/2/2012 at 17:34
THEY SEE ME ROLLIN
PigLick on 16/2/2012 at 17:34
IM KOKI
Aerothorn on 16/2/2012 at 20:09
Quote Posted by Tocky
He? He took a machine that he had bought and ended it's use with the use of another machine that he owned. The right to use either machine was his because he bought them. That was one of his lessons.
But this isn't true, is it? If I buy my girlfriend a car, and later we break up, I don't get to go slash her tires because "I paid for it," do I?
There are probably different ownership laws with parents (but youth can still have property, yes?) but I don't think buying something makes it yours AFTER ownership is transferred.
Basically I need a property lawyer.
Al_B on 16/2/2012 at 20:21
Quote Posted by Aerothorn
but youth can still have property, yes?
I suspect not - otherwise that would be a fantastic tax dodge, but like you, I'm not a property lawyer.
demagogue on 16/2/2012 at 20:38
Well there's a gift tax specifically to get around that problem (if it's large enough). It happens especially when people want to just gift their estate to their children to avoid the estate tax transferring it by will. I actually don't remember about buying household stuff, at least if it's not clear to what extent it's a gift vs household property that the child happens to use. If it were a gift to a stranger it's a much clearer case. Those cases come up a lot, where the giver wants the thing back and the receiver sues to keep it. But if it's using it within the household by other family members... I think I remember studying a case on it, but don't remember the answer.
Phatose on 16/2/2012 at 21:20
I was under the impression that minors couldn't actually own property. Things can be put in trust, but that's not the default in a situation like this - it's the parent's property, and she's just using it.
Muzman on 16/2/2012 at 21:23
Haha. That was actually pretty funny. I got the impression he hauled it away from her and 'put it down' right then and there.
Actually that still would have been perversely amusing.
But there's really no need to turn it into a gun/good ol' boy thing really. I am pretty much with Faf, however. What the hell is his problem? It's some kid's facebook rant, who cares. And he's "hacking" her stuff so he can read it? Jesus.
Without knowing what she's like in person it's hard to judge. But if chief among her crimes is swearing, exaggeration and disrespecting her parents in public (in which its debatable it's actually in public) then it's all a bit much. Maybe that is a Good ol' Boy thing, I dunno. What he's doing is still the 2012 equivalent of hovering over her and her friends, eavesdropping while they're talking shit at the mall. Or listening in on the other line while they gab upstairs in your enourmous sitcom house. There's technical reasons why it's not quite the same and both parties are being naive about it to some extent. But socially speaking this is the same thing.
Maybe she doesn't 'act like she's 15' because she's not treated like she's 15?
