Holy Thief on 17/3/2009 at 10:43
It's not a 'beret', it's a bag hat, a very flamboyant one and she's a noble woman, you can tell by the cut of her dress and the work on the pleats around the neckline. :)
jtr7 on 17/3/2009 at 10:51
Quote Posted by ManicMan
Ah, but my point is really that the problem with reading between the lines is sometimes there is nothing there to read. Sometimes what you think is there, is something completely different. I bet if the guy turned around and made a clear pass at her, she might hit him around the head with her mace.. that does happen...
of course, it COULD be there, or it could not ^_^
I understood you the first time, and my response remains unchanged.:angel:
Holy Thief: Hey! You're posting again with your anachronistic expertise.:thumb:
Holy Thief on 17/3/2009 at 10:57
Cheers. I'll take that as a compliment. :)
Been busy constructing medieval clothing and also trying to get those interested in the Hammerites to join my group on FB. Glad someone posted the painting of the noble woman, I needed a copy myself for various reasons but my TDS disk died last month :(
jtr7 on 17/3/2009 at 11:10
Dang! PM me if you need any others.:o
ManicMan on 17/3/2009 at 12:45
hated the DS hammer look.. they got ride of all the nice outfits and when for something that looks like a thrown on red dress with some kind of body armour.. what happened to the nice uniforms of T1 & T2? but then, the fact the 'improved' graphics of T:DS meant whole new gear NOT better detailed gear was one of the main faults with the game in my books... but then, this is against the topic at hand ^_^
RavynousHunter on 18/3/2009 at 03:40
The Hammers may be a bunch of crazy whackjobs, but they're definitely logical when it comes to matters of their order. Seeing as their numbers dwindled during the Metal Age, and given the fact that there were some "Hammerite Heresy Trials" which seem to imply punishment, most likely death (immediate or eventual), it would seem only logical that they would incorporate those of the fairer sex to boost their numbers and aid in tasks they deemed fit for women.
Given the women would probably just be bakers, maybe funerary directors or somesuch, it would seem logical that they wouldn't have a very noticeable presence in the temples; mostly behind-the-scenes jobs that allow the Brothers to use their talents for more important tasks like ... building.
Meisterdieb on 18/3/2009 at 05:32
I'm not so sure the hat is drawn all too well or that the artist tried to depict an actual hat and not simply made something up (I could be wrong, but it just doesn't look right).
Anyway, it still looks like a beret to me (I just don't see the "bag" bit of the bag hat).
jtr7 on 18/3/2009 at 06:08
It doesn't look like a correct beret to you because it looks like she has her head in the open end of a thick cloth bag, with the sewn seam at the bag's bottom running horizontal at the top.:laff:
Holy Thief on 18/3/2009 at 07:48
She has the bottom part of the bag hat rolled up and perched upon the top of her head, you can just make this out in the top right hand of the portrait. This would have been pinned or clipped into place possibly attached to her hair as were most wimples pined to hair braids beneath. The front part has been filleted to look like there is more than one layer to the hat (extensive show of cloth, the more cloth the more well off you were). The main dress has been gathered and cartridge pleated around the neck making sure the cut of the gown looks tight around the upper part of the body and shoulders, while the lower part would be free flowing and also extensive, possibly with a train. The colour, cut and fabric used (possibly Lawmpas) would point to her being a noble, plus there is also decoration to the hat on the left.
15 years reenactment and over 300 garments made, I think I qualify :thumb:
