Earth Flat-lines - by Nicker
heywood on 14/9/2017 at 11:20
That billboard is an advertisement for the Flat Earth Oregon site which is strangely empty of flat Earth conspiracy theory content, just Eric Dubay's video embedded prominently on top and a meetup video on the bottom. Plus a shopping feature with no products.
There are a lot of people who earn a living from videos on YouTube. Based on the going rate, I figure Eric Dubay has made $13-14k just from that one video linked from flatearthoregon.com, most of that in the last month, and he has posted a pile of others, many of which have hundreds of thousands of views. He's making a living from this.
What I'd love to know is how many of his views are from real head nodding conspiracy believers and how many of his views are from people like us who have been click baited? I'd also love to know how many of these YouTube conspiracy video creators are driven by passionate belief versus how many are laughing all the way to the bank while they troll us.
Nicker on 14/9/2017 at 19:03
I know it's easy to label people you disagree with as mentally ill but I really think many of these people may be suffering from Delusional Disorder.
(
http://www.cbc.ca/radio/thecurrent/the-current-for-september-14-2017-1.4287712/delusional-disorder-the-undiagnosed-understudied-mental-illness-1.4288209) Here's an interesting introduction from the CBC.
The interview with Dr. Alistair Munro is very telling on several points. It's impossible for a sufferer to self diagnose. Family and friends often enable the delusions. The condition is likely under diagnosed for these reasons.
Their inability to assess or trust objective evidence and their ability to concoct evidence in support of their delusion, is a marker of many flatties and other anti-science types.
Renzatic on 14/9/2017 at 20:23
I think it's incestuous herd mentality in action. You take a lot of people with similar mindsets, put them together in an environment where they can bounce off each other without outside interference, and BAM. Flat Earthers.
It's the ultimate end result of the paranoid mindset. A conspiracy so vast, it's been perpetrated for thousands of years by the highest echelons of a thousand governments, all to keep you from realizing the truth of the world you live on. And why are they doing this? You know, control and stuff. If they can convince you the world is round, they can convince you of ANYTHING!
heywood on 14/9/2017 at 22:17
[quote=The Matrix]
Morpheus: I imagine that right now, you're feeling a bit like Alice. Hm? Tumbling down the rabbit hole?
Neo: You could say that.
Morpheus: I see it in your eyes. You have the look of a man who accepts what he sees because he is expecting to wake up. Ironically, that's not far from the truth. Do you believe in fate, Neo?
Neo: No.
Morpheus: Why not?
Neo: Because I don't like the idea that I'm not in control of my life.
Morpheus: I know exactly what you mean. Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you to me. Do you know what I'm talking about?
Neo: The Matrix.
Morpheus: Do you want to know…what it is?There's two kinds of conspiracy theorists:
- People who believe in a single conspiracy or a small group of related ones
- People who believe in a wide range of conspiracies
The latter seem to have something like a reverse disassociative disorder with a generalized compulsion to reject reality. Like the Matrix quote above.
Renzatic on 14/9/2017 at 23:12
Or maybe they're just dumb.
Or maybe the world really is flat, and we're the ones who are dumb. Really makes you think, don't it? :eek:
Tocky on 14/9/2017 at 23:59
Not really. They ARE just dumb. However, it makes you defend what you have understood your whole life. Not many think about how the knowledge first came about and how to prove it without going around the world.
montag on 15/9/2017 at 00:13
It made me think about how many people have circumnavigated the globe, so I checked. Holy crap! (
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_circumnavigations)
well, I donno how I screwed that up, but try, try again.
Fuck it, copy paste you lazy bastards.
edit #3: and there you go,proof of early onset Alzhiemers.
heywood on 15/9/2017 at 00:32
There are probably millions of people who have circumnavigated the globe via commercial airliner with stops. At the risk of sounding like a braggart, I've done it myself several times when I was living in Australia. To a flat earther, circumnavigation just means flying/sailing around in a circle.
Tocky on 15/9/2017 at 00:39
If you think going around the world is any proof to them then think again. They are masters at avoiding reason. They then claim magnetic north is the center point of plate world and going around the world is just going in a circle. Magnetic south is the ice rim on the edge of the plate and the government keeps a fleet of warships that patrol just to keep folks from discovering the "truth". When you explain that going from the tip of Africa to the tip of South America would then land a plane in the ocean from lack of fuel not to mention the times of take off and landing would not match up with how it actually is they choke up and remain silent.
I give them marks for inventiveness. To explain time zones they have it posited that the sun works like a flashlight swinging in a circle over the disc. They haven't the wit to explain why the moon and planets appear round or how it is you can view the international space station with a telescope but some of the back flips they employ are quite remarkable to explain things.
Ha! heywood beat me.
Nicker on 15/9/2017 at 03:06
Here's a (
http://walter.bislins.ch/bloge/index.asp?page=Creating+Flight+Plans+for+Flat+Earth) Flight Plan App for the Flat Earth, with spherical flight planning comparisons.
Of course it's created by a globalist... a globular... globby? Flatties lack the math skills to produce such a thing, it seems.
It gave me an idea for a movie, which takes place on a flat earth where the most convoluted and paranoiac beliefs of Flat Earthers are absolutely true.
It opens on a flight between Australia and South Africa. The passengers are anesthetized during a routine mid-air refueling. The cabin crew, wearing breathing masks, work their way down the aisles, adjusting watches and any personal electronics not automatically reprogrammed by the plane's wireless jammers. Suddenly a passenger wakes up and begins panicking. Apparently the sleeping gas has malfunctioned and soon the cabin is alive with shrieking passengers.
Cut to exterior plane. Escape pods are jettisoned.
Cut to the empty cockpit. The camera pans the controls as the unmanned flight yolk trims the plane. The disembodied voice of a man, with a heavy middle eastern accent, argues with the pilots who beg for the lives of their passengers. Shots ring out. The disembodied voice screams "Allahu Akbar!" and the flight yolk pitches the plane downwards in a screaming dive. The shot backs out through the fuselage and travels down the length of the plane, the terrified faces of passengers framed in the windows of the doomed aircraft.
As the plane drops out of shot the camera continues to zoom out and dolly back. As it passes the moon we see it is a frame of metal girders, covered in a shell.
As we pull out further, the encircling Ice Wall can be seen and far in the distance, a yellow oval illuminates the earth directly below it.
The shot holds for a moment and then in the middle of the dark ocean, there is a brief flash of fire.
Cut to newspaper headline "Flight 666 Down! Cockpit Voice Recorder Recovered." The paper folds down to reveal a security guard seated in his guard house. He snaps to action as a menacing limo pulls up to the gate. A rear window winds down and the guard peers into the shaded interior.
"Good Morning, Doctor B! This is a surprise."
"Yes it is, Charlie. Let's keep it zat vay."
An impossibly ancient but bright eyed Wernher von Braun leans into the light and winks playfully at Charlie.
"Keep 'em on their toes, eh Doc?"
"Ja, ja."
As the limo passes through the raised gate Charlie flashes a casual Nazi salute.
Cut to interior NASA Soundstage #3. A full scale model of the ISS sits atop a gimble, in front of an enormous green screen. Actors in space-suits dangle from wire harnesses. News of von Braun's imminent arrival has leaked and people scurry about madly, in anticipation...
Etc., etc..