Sensut on 15/8/2013 at 12:23
Here is my actual work on MAX_GLOBAL_RENDER limit:
Code:
--------------- csgmerge ---------------
Epsilon is 1.e-004
File has 15217 cells.
Allocations: 15218
Min: -396.5 -326.25 -4.
Max: 303.5 612.75 234.75
Input polys: 52972
Unique planes: 5044
Unique render aspects: 7984
Unique vertices: 66495
Allocations: 121106
Merges made: 25018
Merges with internal colinear points: 0
0 colinear points deleted
Allocations: 76114
Totally coplanar... ick.
Totally coplanar... ick.
Totally coplanar... ick.
Totally coplanar... ick.
Discarded degenerate polys: 28
Current allocations: 6464
Max allocations: 121113
Releasing remaining allocs: 6464
------------- csgmerge end -------------
My "Unique render aspects: 7984" seems to be high compared with the other missions. But what means "Unique render aspects" ? It's a city mission with huge buildings where all of the roofs and walls are climbable, and the housing can be explored. And what is that "Totally coplanar... ick."? For a time there were only 2 limes of it, and now there is 4.
DrK on 9/3/2014 at 14:25
Well, I just got the increase MAX_GLOBAL_RENDER error. I am able to portalize, but I can't optimize anymore. I'm clueless.
Anything new about what causes this error ? Is it a mission breaker ?
I may have to split the mission in 2 parts because of that. I'll try to remove a couple sides to cylinders and see what happens, but it really baffles me.
fibanocci on 9/3/2014 at 14:56
Show your monolog.txt. How much 'Unique Render Aspects' do you have?
DrK on 9/3/2014 at 15:02
32-bit 2X Lightmaps
Lighting mode: Objcast
gedcsg_light_quad=0
INFO: Loaded script module "convict"
INFO: Loaded script module "gen"
Lighting mode: Quick
Setup 4086 brush level (7188 brushes total)...
Inserted 4085 brushes.
RAW cell count: 65180
Splitting large cell @ 269.61185 -4.7236679 -19.211659: 59 polys, 138 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 349.22837 -206.15123 -36.101347: 50 polys, 148 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 296.51975 -153.81077 -40.913249: 54 polys, 222 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 381.02885 -49.539067 -37.756433: 41 polys, 223 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 359.66251 -70.002957 -41.952407: 56 polys, 227 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 385.56968 -33.150513 -37.745845: 37 polys, 184 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 391.37796 -33.703665 -37.955542: 43 polys, 159 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 378.47911 -45.275259 -37.613322: 44 polys, 193 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 379.2383 -34.594291 -37.863775: 54 polys, 260 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 316.52318 -36.163505 -42.582327: 35 polys, 176 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 318.70544 -92.680359 -36.084679: 28 polys, 130 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 345.02154 -164.7891 -12.948463: 70 polys, 181 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 344.755 -172.72536 -13.06181: 68 polys, 221 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 344.99459 -180.71999 -13.007556: 76 polys, 217 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 347.36716 -173.92824 -19.035259: 96 polys, 354 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 391.59416 -165.00721 -13.205198: 28 polys, 173 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 395.50571 -165.26035 -15.122737: 37 polys, 139 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 391.60039 -179.61112 -12.957792: 72 polys, 300 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 395.12696 -178.60581 -15.391347: 34 polys, 133 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 386.54923 -179.28439 -14.922379: 29 polys, 134 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 391.99047 -171.81747 -12.781974: 27 polys, 129 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 345.94141 -177.89592 -6.6712652: 62 polys, 148 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 334.08706 -176.68325 2.3028727: 28 polys, 130 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 329.52233 -183.4953 9.6044776: 58 polys, 145 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 275.03111 -125.7377 5.1184272: 67 polys, 161 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 275.40982 -124.56234 1.736118: 57 polys, 170 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 272.46593 -109.89564 15.059376: 77 polys, 149 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 269.42756 -112.76796 10.433962: 65 polys, 96 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 271.89518 -111.76683 15.074219: 77 polys, 139 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 269.749 -12.428051 -19.171389: 42 polys, 157 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 297.76208 -153.89121 -41.093235: 49 polys, 189 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 379.30025 -30.327036 -37.830836: 30 polys, 132 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 347.70009 -167.14951 -19.216306: 48 polys, 163 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 391.482 -176.44394 -13.281438: 46 polys, 156 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 359.40868 -75.021079 -42.11437: 33 polys, 142 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 342.19499 -172.7024 -13.991451: 44 polys, 149 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 342.33311 -180.62409 -13.968501: 50 polys, 136 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 347.13233 -179.47061 -19.149872: 55 polys, 201 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 391.58593 -182.27489 -12.790397: 46 polys, 180 vertices
Splitting large cell @ 297.7085 -153.79331 -40.074006: 38 polys, 157 vertices
More than 32 edges after edge-merge!
On polygon at location: 270., -120.5, 15.922191
383 extra bsp planes created
29500 cells, 187678 portals, 77339 polygons; 902 splits from large polys
40073 polys merged; 117733 colinear vertices deleted; 22 vertices max
7723 unique planes
Bytes used for internal portal structures: 85809600 bytes.
Polyhedra 529872 Polys 12541568 Portal PolyEdges 29386160 PolyEdges 43352000
Portalized.
Computing optimized BSP... this may take a while.
--------------- csgmerge ---------------
Epsilon is 1.e-004
File has 29500 cells.
Allocations: 29501
Min: -8. -284. -63.5
Max: 463. 80.75 24.5
ERROR: Increase MAX_GLOBAL_RENDER
Current allocations: 188379
Max allocations: 188379
Releasing remaining allocs: 188379
------------- csgmerge end -------------
WARNING: Optimization failed, level remains unoptimized!
I've had the More than 32 edges after edge-merge! problem for quite a while, I just deleted its brush to check it out, but it doesn't change anything regarding the Max_Global_Render error.
I know I am very close to the cell limit, but I can deal with it. I can't find the unique render aspects.
Soul Tear on 9/3/2014 at 15:08
I continue to walk the razor's edge. First I had to remove the insides of the mansion. Further I had to abandon the forest. I just hope I will not have to build anything because I will have to remove something again.
I concluded better to build several small well detailed levels than one large.
fibanocci on 9/3/2014 at 15:13
Quote:
I can't find the unique render aspects.
Optimize doesn't work, that's why. You have to delete some cylinders or dodecahedrons (maybe 4-5) or some other terrain brushes. Then optimize again. I bet it's working after deleting some stuff. Show monolog after optimization again.
DrK on 9/3/2014 at 15:16
I think I'll split my mission in 2 parts, I can't really delete parts of it in order to finish it.
Anyway, I opened a backup of the mission, without the 20 or 30 brushes I recently added to it. The mission optimizes, no problem. And there, the monolog actually shows the unique render aspects : 7992.
Soul Tear on 9/3/2014 at 15:17
Quote Posted by DrK
32-bit 2X Lightmaps
RAW cell count: 65180
This is it. I get this error at 55.800. I have not yet figured out whether there is any regularity.
fibanocci on 9/3/2014 at 15:22
I guess, that's the limit. I mentioned it here
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http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142008&p=2206008&viewfull=1#post2206008)
Quote:
Beltzers map only has 2755 Unique render aspects. And I can put tons of stuff into Beltzers map. I hit the limit at 7992 in the testing map. I can't add a single brush without messing up optimization. So I guess, this is the limit for MAX_GLOBAL_RENDER.
All you can do is to delete some stuff (terrain brushes) or replace terrain brushes with objects. Objects don't affect the number of 'Unique render aspects'
