rachel on 31/7/2009 at 20:23
Quote Posted by N'Al
All those non-newbs who remember *Zaccheus* raise your hand.
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I tried EVE but left most of the trial period go unused due to losing track of time and eventually running out of it. I still think about reregistering every now and then.
SE, I think the death rule is you have to buy insurance to get a "clone" with all your skills intact, otherwise you have to restart from way back or even the beginning, I'm not so sure. Regardless, if you lose your ship it's gone though.
june gloom on 31/7/2009 at 20:31
Quote Posted by *Zaccheus*
1) I'm the guy who joined TTLG nearly 5 years before you.
Oh right, 'cuz I forgot join date is directly proportional to penis size.
Quote Posted by *Zaccheus*
I mainly hang out in the Thief section.
Ah. Thiefgen escapee. Say no more! :thumb:
Quote Posted by *Zaccheus*
2) I searched this forum and found no reference to EVE.
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http://ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=108909&highlight=eve+online) Haha.
DaBeast on 31/7/2009 at 20:56
Such an ass
june gloom on 31/7/2009 at 20:59
Oh stop, I know you only love me for my body.
Minion21g on 31/7/2009 at 23:00
Quote Posted by Matthew
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I'm pretty sure I'm still in the TTLGKRU chat on my character but I've stopped playing EVE. It gets dull after a while.
SubJeff on 31/7/2009 at 23:56
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Oh right, 'cuz I forgot join date is directly proportional to penis size.
You know what we've largely warmed to you dethtoll but you started the "who are you" tardery and its just tough shit that Zacch is an oldskool member who a.we've known for longer than you and b.has never been as much of an ass as you have amply shown you can be. So for once, just this once, just shut. the. fuck. up. and get OT.
Back OT: so if I don't have a clone (that I have to update for cash monies I'm guessing) then I go right back to the beginning? The very, very start? Or at least a significant way back? Are these clones hard/expensive to get? And if, like Ulukai seems to have, you have loads of money what is the biggie about dying?
Aerothorn on 1/8/2009 at 00:15
So I've been playing EVE since the end of June, and have been meaning to write a little analysis of it but somehow that never quite happens.
My current feelings: A mixed bag. On one hand, the OP video (while hyperbolic) has a grain of truth to it: this is, to my knowledge, the only major MMORPG that is legitimately player-run. On the macro level, it's fascinating: complex economics, wars, etc.
But if you're not in a massive PVPing corp (and as a starting player, you simply don't have the cash necessary to PVP), then the tasks left up to you are rather dull. You can mine, which is sleep-inducing. Missions aren't awful, but the combat is even *more* simplistic than that featured in other MMORPGs, which is saying something. Courier missions are fedex quests. Traveling anywhere takes a long time.
Which makes it sound like I think the game's a failure, but I really don't. I think it has issues to get over - and given that they're still here six years after launch, it probably won't get over most of them - but there's real meaningful social interaction to be had. You just got to be in a good corp.
Other interesting thing about EVE: EVERYONE is in a corp (guild). You're assigned to a NPC one at the outset, which doesn't mean much, but it seems that pretty much everyone joins a player-run corporation quickly.
To answer SE's questions:
1. You don't go back to the very start, but close to it. Of course, upgrading clones (if I remember correctly, haven't done it recently) does not cost that much money.
2. If you're rich, PVP isn't that much of a problem. On the flipside, if you're poor, PVP is a big problem, i.e. you should stay out of low-security space.
So what are folk's character names on Eve? I'm Aerolf.
Trance on 1/8/2009 at 00:16
Anyone signed with a nullsec corp? I've had enough of empire space and would like to put my new HAC skills to good use.
Evemail Erda Renadee if you've got an offer.
DaBeast on 1/8/2009 at 01:08
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
Back OT: so if I don't have a clone (that I have to update for cash monies I'm guessing) then I go right back to the beginning? The very, very start? Or at least a significant way back? Are these clones hard/expensive to get? And if, like Ulukai seems to have, you have loads of money what is the biggie about dying?
You lose an amount of skill points from a random skill I think. Typically it results in losing a level 5 (the highest skill level) and having to re-train it which can take as long as a month or maybe more. Definitely a sucky thing to happen
Trance on 1/8/2009 at 01:12
Not the entire skill level, though, in the case of large-multiplier skills. For instance, if you had a battleship (8x) skill trained to 5 and get podded with an insufficient clone, it'll knock off maybe 2 or 3 days of SP, bringing you to lvl 4 and 90% or so training progress to 5.
The most SP I ever had to make up for insufficient clone grade was 3 1/2 days of training -- Caldari Battleship V.
EDIT: And the "biggie" about dying, at least for players in the middle range between fresh newbie and well-off PVPer, is more the loss of the ship they're piloting than any clone grade consideration. A lot of players make their first forays into lawless space inside the best-fitted, most expensive ship they own, and are flabbergasted at how quickly they can become space dust out there. Ships are significant investments, so losing one and all its fitted equipment can be a pretty severe blow. That's why the number 1 PVP adage is "don't roll out with any ship you aren't prepared to lose".
