Bogeyman on 21/5/2001 at 10:19
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Originally posted by TechImmortal:
<STRONG>SHODAN beats all for a heartless life-waster.
But Durandal from Marathon, while not evil, is surely as manipulative as SHODAN. I love the bit where Durandal fakes his death.</STRONG>
I've never met Shodan :o (I guess I'll have to give in and buy a PC at some point) but if he's as manipulative as Durandal he must be a real pain. Not that I don't like Durandal, in a weird sort of way, although nothing will ever replace Leela in my heart.
Tech, would you say that Tycho is evil? I think in Infinity at least it felt that way.
wallcloud on 21/5/2001 at 21:44
SHODAN is a "she" bogeyman, or rather an it.
But more like a she. Give in and buy it already!
"Scanning area...TARGET AQUIRED!!!"
TechImmortal on 23/5/2001 at 05:47
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Originally posted by Bogeyman:
<STRONG>I've never met Shodan :o (I guess I'll have to give in and buy a PC at some point) but if he's as manipulative as Durandal he must be a real pain. Not that I don't like Durandal, in a weird sort of way, although nothing will ever replace Leela in my heart.
Tech, would you say that Tycho is evil? I think in Infinity at least it felt that way.</STRONG>
This was all so long ago, I'm afraid you're going to have to remind me. Actually, I didn't play the original Marathon; I did play Marathon II (where Durandal fakes his own death.) And you know, I was so sorry to kill the manipulative SOB of a machine, I actually felt bad - until he turned up again. That'll teach me!
Bogeyman on 23/5/2001 at 11:03
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Originally posted by TechImmortal:
<STRONG>This was all so long ago, I'm afraid you're going to have to remind me. Actually, I didn't play the original Marathon; I did play Marathon II (where Durandal fakes his own death.) And you know, I was so sorry to kill the manipulative SOB of a machine, I actually felt bad - until he turned up again. That'll teach me!</STRONG>
All right, I presume you played the Win 95 version of M2 (M2 being the only one to make it to Windows).
I can't summarize the plot here, noone can (if you are interested, look here (
http://marathon.bungie.org/story) http://marathon.bungie.org/story )but a brief recap regarding AIs should be possible.
On the good ship UESC
Marathon there were 3 AIs, Leela, Tycho, and Durandal. At the end of the first game Leela was MIA, Tycho had been kidnapped by the Pfhor and Durandal had kidnapped a Pfhor ship.
Simplistically, Infinity (aka Marathon 3) is a tug of war between Tycho (now allied to the Pfhor) and Durandal, with the player as the prize and pawn.
Tycho is a lot less subtle but even more ruthless and cynical than Durandal, and has , of course, changed sides. Hence my original post.
Last one to the core is an unarmed BoB. :D
ender_sai on 24/5/2001 at 16:30
My favorite AI is HAL 9000 from 2001 (the book and the movie) mainly because he is very calm, but obviosuly very malfuntional.
I mean, Shodan is great, but HAL is a bit more realistic as an enemy. He's scary.
Tobbe 2-4601 on 24/5/2001 at 22:05
:( :(I have tried to get Marathon 2(tried a demo that i found on a cd) but i can't get it anywhere. :( :( :(
TechImmortal on 24/5/2001 at 22:07
Thanks for the summary, Bogeyman!
And I suppose since no one's done it yet, I have to bring up that old classic, Colossus: The Forbin Project, which Warren Spector made everyone on the Deus Ex team watch :)
Go rent it and get a load of the creepy elevator scene.
Agent Monkeysee on 24/5/2001 at 22:12
I'm surprised no one's mentioned Joshua yet. Sure he wasn't evil per se, but you could make the same argument for HAL. And HAL didn't almost blow the world up.
<font size=4><tt>Greetings Professor Falken
Shall we play a game?</tt></font>
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frozenman on 24/5/2001 at 22:39
This Marathon sounds like an interesting game. Any other details on the gameplay? Is it a FPS? Is it like SS1 + SS2? Can i still find it anywhere?
wsthune on 25/5/2001 at 04:08
I'd like to echo TechImmortal's recommendation to view Colossus: The Forbin Project. A well-crafted and disturbing film -- especially the final scene.
