Exposing Sexual Harassment... - by Goldmoon Dawn
Thor on 18/11/2017 at 07:16
Quote Posted by SubJeff
It really is a big deal though.
You're clearly lacking empathy. This could be a very traumatising event. It's so invasive and when you're physically weaker you might worry that it'll become something else.
You've marked yourself with this one.
Neither you or I can really empathise with a woman. The second sentence actually has a little meat to it though, as a woman (or more universally speaking - anyone in a position of disadvantage, *especially* children) might emotionally assume a world of things. In that respect I agree, that can be pretty scary in the moment. But I still wouldn't go for the word "traumatising", unless you have a very loose definition of the word. It doesn't stand anywhere near being mistreated as a child. It doesn't stand anywhere near actual abuse. It's like like a gateway to that potential though, which I agree has to be cut off. It's just incredibly overblown, especially when people say or think he should lose his life (as in his career, social life etc.) over this. Like there's not an actual person behind it. Sociopathic society is sociopathic.
And how have I marked myself, eh? I mean, I know how, but I'm curious of the phrasing you would put it in.
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He's abused his position very badly. I like his humour but I don't care if he goes down over this.
Kek. I believe the only response appropriate to this is...
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You're clearly lacking empathy.
And something tells me that won't convince you, seeing how you set the double standard within the same post.
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Dia - I suggest blocking robthom. He's clueless. Probably best to block Thor too.
Hey now, me and Dia haven't even ever spoken, even through words on the internet. So, is the goal to block everyone that doesn't echo your opinions (or, I should probably say - emotions)? I guess we all need a home of some sort, so in that sense I understand. Ek. I just never do that myself, since it's interesting for me to learn new things, new perspectives and grow etc. This place has been a surogate home for me for a long time.
Starker on 18/11/2017 at 07:42
You are not entitled to a career and you are not entitled to a social life. If you habitually whip your willy out in front of colleagues, it shouldn't be a big surprise that people don't want to hire you or spend time with you. Especially if you are an entertainer and a public figure.
SubJeff on 18/11/2017 at 07:47
Why is Carl Sargeant not relevant?
Don't you have Google?
Thor on 18/11/2017 at 08:24
Quote Posted by SubJeff
Why is Carl Sargeant not relevant?
Don't you have Google?
Could you enlighten me with your reference pls?
Quote Posted by Starker
You are not entitled to a career and you are not entitled to a social life. If you habitually whip your willy out in front of colleagues, it shouldn't be a big surprise that people don't want to hire you or spend time with you. Especially if you are an entertainer and a public figure.
When you put it like that... ofcourse it sounds bad. But again, I said it somewhere before (evidently to "Slasher", because he sure as hell responded to that one) - normal people have most likely done far worse things in their lives. If you're a parent, then there's a depressingly high chance that you've abused your child in some way, which is far worse.
So if you're fundamentally stupid or have a "fatal flaw" on something (and everybody has one), you need to be educated and helped. If you decide to dispose of this person whose flaw got exposed, you're not helping anyone, except feeling a little better about yourself because you don't have that flaw at least. Suddenly it's as if Louie never brought any value to the world and he's a piece of trash that should be eliminated and forgotten about. Hey, I felt a bit of a shock when I first heard about that thing. And it's a bit of a disappointment, but I won't let something like that make me suddenly discard him as person. He just needs to know that people don't appreciate that and he should definitely resist his urge to repeat that. He most likely thought it was semi-ok, especially since he jokes about things like that and people just accepted it.
Sometimes we learn new things about a person that we like, sometimes we learn new things about a person that we dislike.
He never hurt anybody, ffks (as far as we know, anyway... :joke: ... ha ha rape joke, but if he came out with that (and I mean if it got proven/admitted, not if he was randomly accused by someone whom disliked him (before then it's all inconclusive, no 100% judgements made in either direction...)), I would learn something new about the world and dislike him quite a bit.)
icemann on 18/11/2017 at 11:22
I should note that another names been added to the list. John Jaratt of Wolf Creek fame. I personally don't believe it, as it's a historical case dating back to the 70s, and is just 1 singular instance. Jaratt has emphatically denied that it ever happened.
Proving it from that far back would be next to impossible, unless there was witnesses.
Slasher on 18/11/2017 at 14:19
Quote Posted by Thor
Not like it was the most serious argument, but it still beats no argument, which you thrive on. I know, some people can get through life that way, by just bullying and being dumb jocks, but in the long term bullies die out anyway. No need to tell me about your private life.
You make less and less sense with every post. Quit while you're still not too far behind, broski.
Nameless Voice on 18/11/2017 at 14:59
Quote Posted by Thor
Could you enlighten me with your reference pls?
Carl Sargeant was a <s>Scottish</s> Welsh politician who was accused of sexual harassment. I do not know how severe, as the details of exactly what he was supposed to have done were not released publicly.
He was removed from his Cabinet position and then he later took his own life as a result.
It's possible that he did nothing wrong but thought that he would never live down his ruined reputation. I do not know the details.
(Edit: apparently he was accused of groping someone. It's also likely he was never told exactly what he was supposed to have done.)
Nameless Voice on 18/11/2017 at 16:06
Ooops, that is very true.
Pyrian on 18/11/2017 at 17:23
That's our prime example? A secret case? Sheesh. Meanwhile Donald Trump is still President of the United States.