Angel Dust on 18/11/2008 at 10:23
You could have deeper conversations with many more characters than just the Master, that was just the most obvious example. How about trying to get it on with that gang leaders wife in Reno? Also surely I'm not the only one who dislikes the [] around the win! options? The voice acting arguement doesn't hold either since Bioware RPG's, Vampires and The Witcher do all right, and sometimes fantastically, in the dialog depth department. Of course the fact that you convince people with one line wouldn't be such a problem if that one line wasn't often very weakly written.
242 on 18/11/2008 at 10:38
Quote Posted by BR796164
Seriously nobody minds having to close PIPBoy with TAB?
I'm used to PIP Boy and learned what's where in it after about 10 hours of playing ;)
Rogue Keeper on 18/11/2008 at 10:41
:erg: Angel Dust, of course you're right. Beth was never good in character writing, it actually rocked in making the characters look like generic clones. Still this is a big leap since TES games for THEIR standards.
Now that I think about it further, the best writing had games which came from studios with ex-Black Islers or Bioware - Arcanum, Bloodlines or KOTOR. F3 should have been made either by Obsidian or Bioware, but history wanted it to go to another direction. I don't blame Beth for buying the rights, I blame incompetent Interplay topmanagement for bringing the company to brink of bankrupcy and having to rely on selling such crucial license to pay their debts. Fallout 3 from Obsidian or Bioware would have less open world and the narrative would be tighter, but writing would be surely better.
Oh, another thing I seen people complaining about is lack of any deeper relations between the settlements, remember that previous games had quite sophisticated political relationships between various settlements and factions. Something what this title seems seriously lacking.
242, another valid point, it's a shame I can't hotkey all - or at least those few most important - information panels. F1-F2-F3 is barely compensating this.
Also I hate Intense Training perk. It's killing the very essence of SPECIAL character development limits. Take 10 IT perks and your character is a generic, versatile superhuman. Even better if you collect stats boosting boobleheads. "Training" your LUCK. WTF? Stupid...
242 on 18/11/2008 at 10:56
Another thing I like in this game is lots of non-quest areas with some story or interesting things to experience.
F.e. Dunwich Building, Hubrix Comics (and Grelock's Reign text adventure :D ), house in Washington with robot that can read verses for dead child etc.
suliman on 18/11/2008 at 11:41
Quote Posted by BR796164
Also I hate Intense Training perk. It's killing the very essence of SPECIAL character development limits. Take 10 IT perks and your character is a generic, versatile superhuman. Even better if you collect stats boosting boobleheads. "Training" your LUCK. WTF? Stupid...
Well, they balanced it out by making most of the stats worthless:erg:
242 on 18/11/2008 at 12:55
Quote Posted by suliman
Well, they balanced it out by making most of the stats worthless:erg:
What stats are worthless?
Rogue Keeper on 18/11/2008 at 13:03
Description of the SPECIAL mechanism is really vague in game and in the manual as well. F1 manual had pretty detailed description of how stats and skills worked, it even had very elaborate explanation of combat system. Here we have to actually believe Bethesda that there are really some dices thrown in the backround. All I know about Luck, for example is that higher luck raises skills a bit (that's cheap) and you have better chance for criticals, but even with low luck, criticals are fairly common. Critical hits are supposed to be uncommon or rare and ultra gory death animations should be an equally uncommon or rare rewards. But no, here they are funny fast food for arcade loving audience.
BEAR on 19/11/2008 at 04:01
Quote Posted by dethtoll
You must be new to the internet. The Fallout community are absolutely batshit. They eat batshit, they breathe batshit, they drink batshit, they drive batshit, they work at batshit selling batshit and batshit accessories.
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http://www.nma-fallout.com/) As expected, they're not happy with it.
Seems to be expected. It would be interesting to know why they are so insane. Since I never played the previous fallout games (besides a brief attempt at fallout:tactics) I don't think I'll care much.
vurt on 19/11/2008 at 05:18
Quote Posted by BEAR
It would be interesting to know why they are so insane.
It must be all that batshit + i bet it's not very healthy to play fallout 1-2 for like 10 years straight and not look at any other game. NMA fanboys is the top-layer of fanboys on the internet, a "deluxe" version you might say.
Phatose on 19/11/2008 at 05:51
You know, there interesting thing is that the official NMA review of Fallout 3 seems largely unconcerned about the game related to the other Fallouts. It's sure as hell a lot more honest about the games significant flaws the any of the pro review sites have been.
After Bioshock, IW, and T3, the score for vicious non-acceptance of 'modernized' titles in beloved series is TTLG 3, NMA 1. That should make us the top layer of fanboys on the net.
