Stitch on 19/11/2008 at 16:00
So yeah, I haven't been this addicted to a game since, well, Oblivion. I'm loving it, but it would have been better were it Fallout and not Oblivion with guns.
Rogue Keeper on 19/11/2008 at 16:06
Right!
Quote Posted by Stitch
Fuck the first two games.
Phatose on 19/11/2008 at 18:02
Quote Posted by BR796164
Not unless you are disabled. Press F1 for shortcut help.
I'm aware of the shortcuts. But we're talking specifically about Fallout 1, and that was a game that required you to pickpocket your own allies to give them gear.
ZylonBane on 19/11/2008 at 18:27
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Bioshock? That game got the same shower of 9s and 10s that FO3 did.
I'll grant that TTLG has the unique "Et tu, Levine?" angle going on, but the specific complaints against Bioshock (limited replay value, silly endings, poor enemy variety, etc etc) I've seen echoed in many other forums. Hell, Quarter To Three has a (
http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=37963) 34-page thread titled "The Things I Don't Like About Bioshock".
242 on 19/11/2008 at 18:32
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You can use garden gnomes as bullets! Friggin' garden gnomes! As bullets! This should nullify any critique against the game. :joke:
Well, you can use any junk as bullets. It saved lots of ammo for me.
Stitch on 19/11/2008 at 19:08
Quote Posted by BR796164
Right!
Hey, the Fallouts were gems of that era, and Fallout 3 would be all the stronger had it managed to maintain more of the strengths of the originals (good dialog trees, to start with).
Having said that, I really wouldn't really argue to anyone other than legacy game enthusiasts that the first two games are must-plays in 2008.
Koki on 19/11/2008 at 19:28
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Having said that, I really wouldn't really argue to anyone other than legacy game enthusiasts that the first two games are must-plays in 2008.
If there are any modern games which do the RPG better, I'm all ears.
Bho on 19/11/2008 at 21:48
Quote Posted by MorbusG
You can use garden gnomes as bullets! Friggin' garden gnomes! As bullets!
That's it I have to get this game now! :mad:
Zygoptera on 19/11/2008 at 22:04
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If there are any modern games which do the RPG better, I'm all ears.
FO1 has not stood the test of time very well, it is clunky, it is unbalanced, its
dialogue isn't particularly deep- with a couple of obvious and telling exceptions; it is better than F3's dialogue of course but that's like saying I'm a better rugby player than Stephen Hawking- it doesn't have many skill/ stat checks, doesn't take a lot of prior decisions into account and doesn't take open world story line short circuiting into account (ie go to one of the cities out of order and you magically gain significant knowledge you couldn't possibly know). I'd rate Bloodlines and Mask of the Betrayer better than F1 as RPGs, quite possibly Gothic
3 too, though it's a far different game. F2, on the other hand and for all the faults it does share (to a lesser extent) with F1, is better than all of those and better than F1 for anything other than tightness of storyline.
quinch on 19/11/2008 at 23:29
I'm about 30 hours in and level 17. There don't seem to be as many quests to complete compared with Oblivion although I have found just over half the locations - if there are 100 in total as is rumoured. Looking at most walkthroughs it seems most of the big quests I have already completed. It was easier to come across the big quests in Oblivion. You would just go and join a guild. I'm ashamed to say i am in need of a guide.
I have also come across a couple of significant locations with no obvious objective connected to them. The sat com stations for example and a nearby military complex.
Still, I love the atmosphere and some of the locations are amazing. Particularly downtown. Washington DC is an inspired choice for this game world. Scary to think the world could still end up like that.
