Hertzman on 9/9/2004 at 03:29
I'm not sure this is new but I don't recall beeing able to do this in any other T2 FM:[SPOILER]You can kill AI by throwing crates at them and they don't even get alerted [/SPOILER]:cheeky: :laff: :thumb:
Ottoj55 on 9/9/2004 at 03:38
it makes no sense that ai shouldn't be injured by crates, they are also injured by errant moss and water arrows. :ebil: the not going on alert is a but having to do with the alertcapzero metaproperty preventing them from reacting to player, to fix the bug the effect is ruined.
the holding cells
[SPOILER]you can get there a variety of ways, there are tunnels under the basement that you can use, you can work your way around the courtyards and up to the catwalks near the gallows, into the locker room and down through the training room, or use a secret passage to the locker room. i've done it everyway. no matter what the mission is not possible if you skip the holding cells.[/SPOILER]
@bob_doe_nz
[SPOILER]the ai react this way because of a technical aspect of the mission, they are set to ignore the player unless they are threatened, as a result they do not go into first alert behavior, but if they see you they are made aware by the engine and stopped from responding, its a loop they can't easily escape in a way, thus you can not pick pockets, etc. it is possible with care to avoid being seen by every ai set this way if you choose to do so.
also, the thing about the gas chamber as you've noticed is that you can grab garrett without deactivating the gas. this won't always work. garrett is alive at missions beginning and has some time to move in the room before dying of the gas, he falls a different way each time i've played it and its not always possible to grab him before the gas kills you.[/SPOILER]
Dafydd on 9/9/2004 at 06:29
ShadowWolf, next to the west door in the Records room is a bookshelf that isn't quite touching the wall; behind the shelf is a switch.
Dafydd
Dafydd on 9/9/2004 at 11:08
All right, I finally found a thiefly way into the eastern part of the map:
[spoiler]Ride the middle elevator down to the basement; get off, then send the elevator up one floor. Hop down into the bottom of the elevator shaft; there is a switch in there which opens a passage to the east elevator (and the other part of the basement). From the east elevator, you can access the rest of the map.[/spoiler]
I did find the secret passage from the locker room to the basement -- the side where you come up from the sewers -- but I can only find the switch to open it in that direction... not the switch at the other end, in the original basement. So once you get into the east, you can get back to the other side; but I can't figure out how to go the other way.
Dafydd
Hertzman on 9/9/2004 at 13:36
[SPOILER]Behind the grille, lean around and look to the right[/SPOILER]
Ottoj55 on 9/9/2004 at 16:58
@ShadowWolf421
the textures are from max payne, so they really add to the atmosphere, i wanted it dark and sad looking, the city didn't look old enough in the OMs.
has anyone located all the secrets yet, without looking for cheater help on my homepage? I'm just curious. i'm also interested in things you enjoyed in the mission that i should do again in my next mission. what didn't you like?
Dafydd on 9/9/2004 at 22:43
Hertzman, either you misunderstood my question or I'm misunderstanding your answer!
I wrote:
Quote:
I did find the
secret passage from the locker room to the basement -- the side where you come up from the sewers -- but I can only find the switch to open it in that direction... not the switch at the other end,
in the original basement. So once you get into the east, you can get back to the other side; but I can't figure out how to go the other way.
You responded:
Quote:
Behind the grille, lean around and look to the rightIt seems as if you're saying where the switch is on the secret-passage side of the grille. What I was asking was how to open that grille
from the original basement, in order to
get into the locker room (if that's even possible). I know how to open it while coming
from the
locker room, but I wonder whether it's possible to open it at the beginning of the game, right after entering the police station via
the sewers.
Dafydd
Ottoj55 on 9/9/2004 at 22:57
@dafydd [SPOILER]yes it is possible both ways, he's right about where it is, but look left behind the grating near the machines that puff steam, i think the description is bad in this case.[/SPOILER]
Lightningline on 10/9/2004 at 00:41
will someone please post the lever sequence ..1 up 2 down yada yada so I can shut off the gas , I like this mission but all this techno stuff is becomeing annoying. Thanks
Nevermind..I got it....I just have to much thinking at work and I dont want to think to much at night.
Dafydd on 10/9/2004 at 00:56
...I'll look for the switch. It's open anyway, I'm just curious.
By the way -- how many books of evidence are there? I destroyed volumes one through three, but the objective didn't check off.
Dafydd
