Ottensen on 10/9/2004 at 09:44
Has Basso borrowed Garrett's mechanical eye for this mission or does he have one of his own? :)
Sluggs on 10/9/2004 at 10:53
:laff: He never thought of that did he? :sly:
Dafydd on 10/9/2004 at 11:28
All right, this time I got Perfect Thief (that's ghost + all loot)... though after I stripped each room, I checked with the loot list to make sure I didn't miss anything. I don't think I found anything I had forgotten, though. Of course, this was my second time through.
In any case, you have the Ghoster's Squeal of Approval, Otto: the mission is perfectly ghostable (literally).
Ottensen, can't you figure anything out? Basso took his SLR Nikon 35mm camera with auto-zoom lens on the mission. Why? So he could take screenshots, of course!
Dafydd
Ottoj55 on 10/9/2004 at 14:21
there is only so much you can disable to make the mission work as if you are basso, and i can't stop you from using the zoom, i never zoom even with garrett. you don't have scouting orbs, if you did you would see garrett through it when thrown.
Sluggs on 10/9/2004 at 14:57
Scouting Orbs! And i never thought about those! :o
Ottoj55 on 10/9/2004 at 15:16
apparently the garrett seen through the orb is one of two models for that purpose only. i could have made basso models and skinned them, but why would basso have this technology?
Dafydd on 10/9/2004 at 19:25
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apparently the garrett seen through the orb is one of two models for that purpose only. i could have made basso models and skinned them, but why would basso have this technology?
I could swear I've seen FMs where scouting orbs were available from the equipment store. As Basso is also a thief, albeit a lesser mortal than Garrett, couldn't he have bought them the same place that Garrett does? I presume Garrett doesn't construct them himself. (And even if he did, why wouldn't he make a few for his best pal, Basso?)
As far as the eye goes... since we know the world has telescopes, it's not that big a stretch to assume that they have manual zoom lenses available as well. The Mechanists' contribution was to build such a set of lenses right into an eyeball that they somehow connected (via magic) to Garrett's actual optic nerve.
Other, lesser beings like Basso would have to make do with some device they held up and looked through, but which gave them roughly the same effect.
(Hey, for those of us who cut our teeth coming up with ingenious explanations for the technological contradictions of the original Star Trek, this is nothing!)
Dafydd
Ottoj55 on 10/9/2004 at 19:55
i would prefer to think that basso is pure mortal, supposing he had a scouting orb and a viewer to look through it i would need the basso model to see when you look back. the orbs were mechanist technology, and in my story line the mechanist technology is pretty pricey on the black market, which is why mechanist gizmos are loot.
so perhaps basso can't afford a scouting orb.
i think of star trek tech inconsistencies as being not inconsistencies at all. we simply don't understand the technology well enough to evaluate it.
Sluggs on 10/9/2004 at 20:44
Quote Posted by Dafydd
The Mechanists' contribution was to build such a set of lenses right into an eyeball that they somehow connected (via magic) to Garrett's actual optic nerve.
:laff: Thanx for the giggle. :thumb:
Oneiroscope on 11/9/2004 at 00:40
Just wanted to say how much I enjoyed this mission! The difference in Basso's stealth abilities greatly changed the usual Thief experience for me. Great job! :thumb:
