Aja on 19/10/2008 at 10:27
man you must be seething at my insolence
mothra on 19/10/2008 at 10:31
5 crashes on 3 systems: yeah, you won't be concerned with your installation limit for FC2 anymore, but when I buy a game I should be able to do with it whatever the f*ck I want, that includes reselling it or installing it on every pc I own even if I never will start it up there. the instant "revoke" when uninstalling is certainly a step in the right direction but i still would like to see it realized without internet connection and "white lists" for 3rd parties (securom).
june gloom on 19/10/2008 at 11:30
holy christ Aja I suggest you go hit up /b/ or CommChat before you make another attempt at trolling because God Damn you suck at it.
mothra, I agree with you. Consumers should have the right to do what they want with their product- they shouldn't have to deal with corporations trying to restrict that. I mean I'm not talking burning a DVD of a game and giving it to your friend, but I mean just fucking installing a goddamn game onto, say your desktop and then your laptop for when you're on a trip. It's the same with music- why should I be restricted on, let's say the fucking player I want to listen to it on?
It's not a question of "oh shit i have 5 computers that all crashed at once", it's a question of "well I've had 3 computers over the last 7 years, I've upgraded one, reformatted another, and the third just crashed outright- I'm all out of activations!" And even if that didn't happen, the activation server eventually will be shut off and your game is useless again. I'm sorry, but my games shouldn't have a fucking expiration date.
Sulphur on 19/10/2008 at 11:49
What mothra said.
Aja, consider if you had this wonderfully draconian activation system on the Xbox 360. Just by virtue of having your console die on you a couple of times, your entire library of games would be rendered useless. Not particularly fair, is it?
User IQ doesn't enter this equation; whether you've crashed 3 PCs 5 times is irrelevant - it's the principle of being able to use what you paid for whenever the fuck you want to.
EDIT: Oh, and everything dethy said, too. Aja, you might want to get a little less narrow-minded.
fetgalningen on 19/10/2008 at 12:39
Self destructing cd´s after a set number of installs, that would be kind of cool :cheeky:
Tho, it seems like a desperate attempt at something from the publishers side, but still, it makes no sense. It doesn't accomplish anything but piss off people that done nothing wrong. (could be debated...)
David on 19/10/2008 at 12:52
Are you lot capable of not fucking up a thread with petty arguments about copy protection? It is getting really old.
The Alchemist on 19/10/2008 at 14:20
I'm getting it for the PS3, so DRM can go suck a nut.
redrain85 on 19/10/2008 at 16:30
Aja wouldn't be saying this kind of stupid shit if the 360 had the same limited activations for all games.
Though, it already has some limited DRM when it comes to Live Arcade game downloads. Xbox goes RROD, say bye-bye to your Live Arcade games. Then you have to call Microsoft and plead with them to give you your games back.
Don't worry, the Xbox 720 (or whatever the hell they call it) and the PS4 will be DRM'd up the ass. The PC is merely the proving ground for these technologies, because it's much easier to develop and iterate on PCs. Once they've "perfected" it, the DRM infection will spread to consoles.
As for the implementation in Far Cry 2, it still pisses me off but at least Ubisoft was smart enough to allow user-controlled revocation right from the start. 2K and EA were idiots for not doing so.
Meanwhile, Bethesda deserves our support for promising not to include draconian DRM at all.
Aja on 19/10/2008 at 17:57
Drunk posting aside, i still think you guys are overreacting. You're all describing a situation that would never happen. Three computers crashing five times over seven years and now you're out of installs? If my Xbox did have greater copy protection, and only allowed me to use my disc on my particular machine, I wouldn't care. And if it crashed I'd call Microsoft and they'd fix it. You're getting up in arms over a very unlikely hypothetical situation, when practically, this form of DRM doesn't affect the way you play the game at all, because you can still install it on your laptop, and your desktop, and your friend's laptop and get five installs each. They're not being especially restrictive, they're just putting a rather high-end limit to people who'll finish the game and then lend it to all their friends.
Absolute complete worst-case-scenario fifteen years in the future you download a crack.
