Zygoptera on 20/10/2008 at 11:40
Quote Posted by Scots Taffer
People who are actively boycotting DRM are going to find themselves in an increasingly untenable position in the future as more and more games adopt a similar method of protection. I don't see what they're going to get out of not experiencing games that, most likely, they won't play often enough to encounter the much-maligned issues involved.
Not really. Budget games don't have DRM (caveat: or at least none of the ones I've ever bought have) as the licencing fees aren't tenable on them. So all I have to do is wait a couple of years and I get the added benefit of getting the games at 1/4 cost, DRM free and without supporting stupidity and malfeasance. Sure, the publisher gets maybe 2USD instead of 20USD, but to quote the great philosopher Justin Timberlake: "Cry me a river". For me it's win/ win.
Quote Posted by Fafhrd
Downloading a cracked game is theft. DISTRIBUTING a cracked game is copyright infringement.
Both are copyright infringements. See for example (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowling_v._United_States_(1985)) Dowling v USA (1985) or for that matter the definition of theft (to whit: "dishonest
appropriation of another's
property with the intention of
permanently depriving them of it").
Fafhrd on 20/10/2008 at 20:46
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or for that matter the definition of theft (to whit: "dishonest appropriation of another's property with the intention of permanently depriving them of it").
Also: "a criminal taking of the
property or
services of another
without consent" (Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law)
Zygoptera on 21/10/2008 at 00:05
The definition I gave is the legal definition of theft, as a crime, slightly reworded for consistent syntax, and was provided to make it clear that unauthorised duplication is not theft (as broadly confirmed in the US by the cited judgement). It is in fact the same crime type (copyright infringement by unauthorised duplication) whether uploading or downloading.
Using "theft" in common usage to describe unauthorised duplication is fine- so far as it goes. But your stated position of making a distinction between downloading being theft and distribution being copyright infringement is simply wrong, I'm afraid. They are both copyright infringements, both technically distributions and neither is theft.
denisv on 21/10/2008 at 18:06
You're both wrong: copyright infringement is not a crime as long as you don't make a substantial profit off it. That's why file sharers get sued by corporations instead of being prosecuted by the government.
The_Raven on 21/10/2008 at 18:40
WTF?! Are you going to suggest next that jaywalking isn't a crime either?
Note: I'm not implying ni any way that copyright infringement and jaywalking are equatable.
SubJeff on 21/10/2008 at 19:06
Jaywalking is only a crime in backwards countries.
I was trying to cross the road FFS!!!!
In other news - the Far Cry 2 trailer has a great voiceover. If only the game really were that deep. It certainly looks awesome. I hope the racial representation in this isn't too skewed towards non-blacks given the setting, and I'm very, very disappointed you can't play a black African. Why no Nigerians (given that the reporter, Reuben, is supposed to be Nigerian)?
Muzman on 21/10/2008 at 22:42
Jaywalking isn't a crime. It's a misdemeanour.
SubJeff on 21/10/2008 at 23:22
its something that isnt just crossing the road and if you cant see the bad in that then well screw you
Muzman on 21/10/2008 at 23:48
My Bonzi Buddy was crushed crossing the youtube bypass
I "Ride a bike" (got a 56k) now. you put traffic before people man
