zacharias on 24/11/2012 at 12:30
Quote Posted by nicked
It's possible, sure, but this is hardly the day and age where one teenager in his bedroom can knock up a single player campaign over the summer holidays. The only people that would benefit from a more powerful editor are professional-level teams of people who are dead set on making a total conversion of the game. So it's really not worth the time and money to cater to those handful of people (who will probably be too disorganised to actually release anything anyway).
Who mentioned campaigns? A single level will do fine thanks. The 'people won't have the man hours to build anything professional anyway' argument is lame, and more importantly irrelevant.
No-one is expecting full blown testing and support for the editor..just release a non-nerfed version. They don't because then their DLC becomes something that isn't worth paying for when you can get it for free from the fans. C'mon, that's the real issue and we all know it. The 'it's not practical and cost-effective' line you are taking is just the PR line.
Frankly, the editor you're getting with Far Cry 3 will already have added millions of dollars in man-hours to the development cost of the gameSorry, but i have to call bullshit on this. You are talking like a team of 40 testers did nothing but test editor functionality/compatibility for 1 year, which seems very dubious.
EvaUnit02 on 24/11/2012 at 18:04
Quote Posted by zacharias
No-one is expecting full blown testing and support for the editor..just release a non-nerfed version. They don't because then their DLC becomes something that isn't worth paying for when you can get it for free from the fans. C'mon, that's the real issue and we all know it. The 'it's not practical and cost-effective' line you are taking is just the PR line.
This reeks of bullshit as well. The DLCs for Bethesda RPGs sell well on PC, regardless of the fact that the game is very moddable, has a SDK with documentation and uses Steam Workshop (for easy mod installation, browsing, etc).
Console games are by far the biggest money maker for the big mainstream publishers. The PC versions having proper mod support and tools would hardly hurt their bottom line.
nicked on 24/11/2012 at 19:26
Quote Posted by zacharias
Frankly, the editor you're getting with Far Cry 3 will already have added millions of dollars in man-hours to the development cost of the gameSorry, but i have to call bullshit on this. You are talking like a team of 40 testers did nothing but test editor functionality/compatibility for 1 year, which seems very dubious.
Testers, and programmers. Maybe "millions" on the editor alone is an exaggeration actually, I'll concede that. A single million is certainly plausible.
zacharias on 25/11/2012 at 01:30
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
This reeks of bullshit as well.
Maybe in your world :)..Though there are always exceptions it's all inter-connected. Where are all the mod tools for pc these days if it isn't an industry trend? (tangent: Bethesda? Who cares..dull, dull games.)
If the pc gets full blown tools it's suddenly veering back towards being the lead platform, which we know they don't want for their business model.
Jason Moyer on 27/11/2012 at 01:58
[video=youtube;TmjTOiPAPEQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmjTOiPAPEQ[/video]
So pretty much everything anyone said about the editor was bullshit.
Slasher on 27/11/2012 at 04:06
I can't wait until this fucking quarter is over. I'm picking this game up and Dishonored and checkin' OUT.
nicked on 4/12/2012 at 07:01
I've been playing this in bits here and there for the last four days having got a freebie copy from a friend. And having an absolute blast. It's hard to describe - I wouldn't say it's "better" than 2, yet, but it's definitely improved on almost all the individual elements of 2. There's so much side-stuff to do, it's almost become like a Just Cause or a Borderlands. Whether that's a step in the right direction or not will probably depend on your opinion of 2.
It's by far the more accessible game. You needed a lot of time and patience to get the most out of 2. This is much more pick-up-and-play. In some ways that's meant sacrificing some really interesting stuff, so there is definitely an element of dumbing down. For example, you have a standard minimap now instead of the awesome paper maps to explore with. All the bad guys helpfully wear red t-shirts so you know who to shoot. And there's a certain cognitive dissonance to having a whiney teenage douche main character ("B-but... I've never shot anyone before! *tears well up in eyes*") who within minutes is sneaking through the jungle like James Bond and stabbing people in the throat.
Regardless of any complaints however, the sheer fun factor is through the roof. Highly recommended, especially if you wanted to like FC2 but weren't patient enough for it. ;)
Jason Moyer on 4/12/2012 at 19:16
Finally came out today, so I'm downloading it straight from Ubisoft via a free coupon that came with my GPU. Looks good, although I doubt it will personally top FC2 for me.
Pyrian on 10/12/2012 at 18:35
Quote Posted by nicked
For example, you have a standard minimap now instead of the awesome paper maps to explore with.
DAMMIT. :mad: Oh, well, I'm still going to try it out. :erg: Eventually.
Slasher on 11/12/2012 at 07:59
So...what's the verdict? How much like FC2 is it? Also, I've never had experience with Ubisoft's DRM before. Is it like really intrusive bloatware or do you not even notice?
