Ricebug on 12/2/2017 at 13:15
Do even a casual search on video games and you'll find that female humans detest them 90% of the time. I did time at an electronics store, and heard stories from women who divorced because their husbands had calluses on both thumbs and whose only communication with them was, "I'll come to bed as soon as I finish this level, honey!"
With that in mind, the Thief community has a lot of female authors. Many have passed into history and beyond but there are still some active ones. Their work is amazing and equal to anything done my their male counterparts. I'd like to hear from any of them.
How do you design Thief missions and still remain a "domestic engineer?"
What does your significant other think about your "hobby?" (The time spent creating a mission can be exorbitant.)
Were you a Thief fan? And if so, what got you into the FM biz?
Unna Oertdottir on 12/2/2017 at 17:36
Quote Posted by Ricebug
How do you design Thief missions and still remain a "domestic engineer?"
You're still stuck in the 19th century?
Squadarofl on 12/2/2017 at 17:59
It begins
Judith on 12/2/2017 at 19:03
That problem doesn't really exist for current 20-25, and to some extent even 30-year-olds. Nobody gets overexcited because a girl is a gamer, whether you're talking about video games, board games, table-top rpgs or other.
pukey brunster on 12/2/2017 at 19:25
Interesting thread Ricebug.. I'll bite. And not getting too sensitive about gender politics, either.. I think it's a good question.
You are right - this community has some great female FM artists. Off the top of my head Gaetane and Lady Ro stand out as two of my fave authors of all time. I'm still new to Dromed by comparison, so I hope I'm not being presumptuous by posting this.
I often joke that I need a wife, because I work full time and I admit that I give to Dromed a considerable amount of my time off. (
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/05/jobs/what-a-working-woman-needs-a-wife.html?_r=0) http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/05/jobs/what-a-working-woman-needs-a-wife.html?_r=0
If not Dromed, it was/is writing and art, and always has been, so the people closest to me are used to my odd rhythm, and how I float off into la la land when the creative energy is flowing.
So to me, Dromed is really no different than any other kind of creative experience. When I finally released my mission after so many years of trying to explain to non-gaming people
what it is that I do.. lol.. often, I was met with confusion, because it's a niche hobby that is far to the left of mainstream. A lot of people can't get their head around it. I think it was extra surprising to some old schoolers because I am female, and historically speaking gaming has been marketed as a male fascination. I think Judith is right though, as that stigma seems to be less prominent with younger people.
I've posted elsewhere how I first started gaming/Dromeding, so I won't go into that. But, in response to your post, the women who divorced their husbands with the gaming calluses.. sounds like there were deeper issues at play, and blaming the death of their marriages on gaming seems to me like a smoke screen.
On a side note, there's a great Adam Ruins Everything on the subject gaming which, although meant to be TV entertainment, does bring up some good points. You should check it out :-)
Ricebug on 12/2/2017 at 22:16
If I had known about that thread, I wouldn't have bothered. That's so cool that so many Dromeders are female. I spent a good many years on the DooM and Quake forums, creating missions, and out of the hundreds, there wasn't one female author. Of course, those games were strictly kill-for-fun. Thief's more adaptive to experience, actual thinking, etc.
Dev_Anj on 13/2/2017 at 00:03
Quote Posted by Ricebug
Do even a casual search on video games and you'll find that female humans detest them 90% of the time.
Citation needed. There's a famous survey that showed that women made up around half of the playing population, and I've seen many women play games. Albeit those games are usually cellphone titles and not full fledged games like say, various shooters mentioned here.
As for your claims that women divorced men for gaming too much, that sounds like an exaggeration. I'm pretty sure most of them would have fallen because of conflicts of interest, and the reason given is just an assumption or simplification.
Ricebug on 13/2/2017 at 00:44
Quote Posted by Dev_Anj
Citation needed. There's a famous survey that showed that women made up around half of the playing population, and I've seen many women play games. Albeit those games are usually cellphone titles and not full fledged games like say, various shooters mentioned here.
As for your claims that women divorced men for gaming too much, that sounds like an exaggeration. I'm pretty sure most of them would have fallen because of conflicts of interest, and the reason given is just an assumption or simplification.
I was working at a Walmart, in electronics. A middle-aged woman was there. We got to talking. Somehow, the subject came up and she told me, "I'll never have one of those things (XBox/Playstation) in my house ever again." She then went on to say that she divorced her husband because he refused to come off the couch and do anything but play "those stupid games," as she put it.
Shaz on 13/2/2017 at 03:27
"My spouse/significant other spends too much time with X, and not enough time with me". "X" might be video games or a myriad of other things. "X" gets the blame, but it's the fault of the one allowing "X" to dominate their time to the exclusion of their relationship that's the real problem- OR, conversely, it's the fault of the person being ignored, because of their own personality that feels like it deserves every single moment of attention, to the exclusion of all else. Working through a relationship issue like this is what's required, not 'banning the XBox' or whatever- that will do no good, as something else will likely take its place.
In my own little part of the world, female gamers are incredibly common. Of course, being that I am one myself, that might not be surprising. I've been a computer gamer since my family got our first computer in the 80's when I was a teenager, and a P&P gamer since I was introduced to AD&D shortly thereafter. Over the decades I've built up friendships with those who share these interests. Thankfully, I don't personally know anyone who detests video games (or board games, or P&P games). I know plenty who have little to no interest, sure, but not nearly to levels of detestation. Oh, I'm sure those people exist, I just don't happen to know any.
