taffedinthehead on 1/2/2005 at 18:51
I know JIS levels are notoriously difficult and often incomplete . . . but I always like to know whether or not I've gotten as far as I can.
Has anyone played this mission? I got quite a ways into it, and in the end I got into a crawlspace made of metal (with a spider at the entrance). When I reached the end, there was a small room with a manhole (the kind that say "drain" on them) that I apparently could not operate - and a window that looked out on the stars. I looked around for a switch but with no luck. Sound familiar to anyone?
The only onjective for this mission is:
"Find an infernal exit."
pojkvaskern on 1/2/2005 at 21:14
Hi there! :D
I've played every JIS mission, and I know they are VERY frustrating and difficult. I came quite far in this mission, but somewhere I got stuck. This is just like AMIDA, if you have played that one. I don't know if Hell 2 can be completed, but probably it can be, but nobody knows how. I'm sorry that I can't help you, even though I've completed nearly all of the JIS missions, (even AMIDA).
The objective may sound a bit strange, but I know JIS quite well and that he doesn't speak english. He is using a translator and that's why he's objectives may sound a bit weird sometimes :p
I've used the search function and read older threads for answers, but I haven't found anything :erg:
I'm afraid nobody knows :( I guess this will always be a mystery :tsktsk:
demagogue on 1/2/2005 at 21:47
You know, I couldn't translate the objectives from JIS's FMs where he already tried to translate them himself. There was nothing to translate.
It has occured to me, though, that it might be a good idea to re-translate them for reasons just like this. Even though you get the idea, something is, well, lost in translation.
This would mean I need to go to one of the Japnse FM sites and d/l the missions from there.
I don't have any time right now, but I'll keep it in the back of my mind to do.
(Also, I probably don't have to tell you that understanding the objectives better may be no help to completing the mission. But it couldn't hurt.)
taffedinthehead on 1/2/2005 at 22:08
Poj - you didn't mean to imply that you actually finished all the objectives in AMIDA do you?
As for Hell 2 - I found an old thread about it and everyone seemed to imply that jumping into the manhole in the courtyard that lead to an underwater dead-end should end the mission - which I have done, but not had the mission end. So, I guess I'll go home and try a few more things on it.
aville on 2/2/2005 at 00:54
Ah, that's a wonderful mission. I cannot understand where you are but i do remember that if you drop into the manhole at the center of the courtyard the mission will end, it should work.
On second thought, i believe that if that was on top of a secret passage, that it was not possible to ascend the stairs and get out from the manhole (you couldn't quite reach it), rather than you could only descend from it. I just had a look at some screens i took from that mission. Is this where you are?
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http://users.forthnet.gr/kav/fo/HC2.jpg)
taffedinthehead on 2/2/2005 at 14:13
Yes - that was where I had gotten to - and I thought it was the ending, but I could never figure out how to open the manhole cover. The other manhole, in the courtyard just outside of this room, is the one I believe everyone says is the exit. Is it? Like, if you left the room in that screenshot, and went back down the metal hallway out the window, there is a courtyard and an open manhole with a short waterway.
I went in that waterway, but the mission does not end. I read that others had a similar problem with the mission not ending. Do you have to have done something else first? I have all four keys, and aside from the closed cover in the room in your screenshot, and another closed cover under the stairs in the mansion (there were two under both sets of stairs, I opened the one that had the lock-box, but the other is still closed) - aside from these, I can't think of any other door or room that is blocked to me.
Do I have a bug? I'm playing off of the release version of Thief Gold, with the Convict patch, and the optimization from Darkloader. I don't think there are any other patches I haven't already installed.
pojkvaskern on 2/2/2005 at 21:44
Quote Posted by taffedinthehead
Poj - you didn't mean to imply that you actually finished all the objectives in AMIDA do you?
Well, I haven't done that yet, because my Thief Gold doesn't work for the moment (unknown reason).
But I know what to do with all the six objectives though :)
taffedinthehead on 3/2/2005 at 13:48
What do you do for Objectives 3-5? I've seen the naughty translations by Demagogue - but how do you actually acheive them?
pojkvaskern on 3/2/2005 at 14:41
Quote Posted by taffedinthehead
What do you do for Objectives 3-5? I've seen the naughty translations by Demagogue - but how do you actually acheive them?
Yes, I read them also.
Have you tried blackjacking the bugbeasts, instead of killing them? That should do it...
demagogue on 3/2/2005 at 17:39
For the record, 'blackjacking the bugbeasts' was a total guess on my part.
I tried myself to bj them and, especially the bug-spitting one, it's practically impossible to get that close.
So maybe you do have to kill them? It wouldn't be so unexpected. But I haven't tried that yet.
Maybe you are supposed to bj/kill them and carry them to a certain place in order to, ermm.... :eww:
Or maybe there's just a flat-out bug that won't let you finish it.
Or maybe I should just email JIS--or TACO, or Keeper, one of the other Japnse Thief regulars--and ask directly. :sweat:
