aville on 3/2/2005 at 22:28
Ok, let me get a few things straight for both missions.
"Hell Chapter 2": taffedinthehead, you are correct, that is not the end of the mission (the hole pictured in my screenshot). The correct exit is the big hole outside in the courtyard. Once you jump in it and swim a bit, the game WILL end (so that takes care of the other thread as well, the mission's fine, it most certainly can be finished, if you can't make it to end you are probably in the wrong room or a miracle has happened :ebil: ) Now, about the small "Drain" cover, what i told you in my previous post proved to be correct (had a looksie today just to be on the safe side and finished the mission as well). You cannot open it and descend, its a dead end. There is a button underneath it which opens it so that means you have to open it from the secret passage underneath. I don't know if you did find the secret passage or you did but didn't see the small button but i'll give you a hint:
[SPOILER]Can you remember a room with a dead man dressed in blue/purple close to a fire? If you search the walls in that room you will find a panel. Frob it and you will find a small passage, which is right under the manhole[/SPOILER]
As for "Amida", i remember very well those threads about the meaning of the objectives. I too could not complete all of them so if it can be completed, i'd be VERY interested to know how. For the record, i had tried back then to blackjack the bugbeasts. It is tricky but possible, yet it didn't seem to complete any objective. Here's a screenie of the ladies sleeping :laff: As always, saves can be provided upon request :)
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http://users.forthnet.gr/kav/fo/Amida.jpg)
taffedinthehead on 3/2/2005 at 22:40
I must have a bug then - I jumped in that dang sewer 10 times and it never ended! I wonder if I have to get through that secret passage first? Maybe it doesn't end till all the doors and manholes in the level have been opened?
aville on 3/2/2005 at 22:53
I don't think so, i tested that a few minutes ago just to see if it would end and it did. All i had to do was jump inside, swim right to the end and wait a second or two (there are no "objective complete" messages like in T2 so you got to do that "blind" and wait a bit for the "success" screen to kick in). If it doesn't work for you, i could give you a final save just to see if there's sth wrong with your game.
EDIT: Here's a save,
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http://users.forthnet.gr/kav/fo/HC2.zip)
load it (looks familiar eh? :laff: ) go outside and have a go.
demagogue on 4/2/2005 at 00:11
Quote Posted by aville
i had tried back then to blackjack the bugbeasts. It is tricky but possible, yet it didn't seem to complete any objective. Here's a screenie of the ladies sleeping :laff:
Oh, well there you go. I'm at a total loss on this then.
Anyone kill them?
taffedinthehead on 7/2/2005 at 16:46
Well, I re-installed some of the custome scripts - I also found a few rooms I had not visited before, including the one with the jumbled-up lady in the fireplace that had three switches next to it. Either the scripts or throwing the switches allowed me to end the game after jumping in the water at the end. Thanks for all the suggestions!
<Username> on 27/6/2019 at 20:37
Yes! Managed to complete this without hints in 1 hour 40 minutes and 30 seconds. Just when I was wondering if I was totally, hopelessly stuck, I found myself wandering into the courtyard again, with the now open manhole in the middle.
The mission is unfinished but playable. The atmosphere is oppressive: The floors are littered with corpses and debris. There are many deadends. You can never be sure if you missed a switch for a door somewhere or if you ended up in another deadend. Some rooms have rough edges or graphics glitches. There is no loot. The one readable book I came across contained only the word „TEST“.
I initially thought I would see only haunts, apparitions and undead Hammerites. Later on I encountered a „squished“ Ramirez, a „squished“ female noble in a fireplace, a female ghost servant, and three prisoners behind bars.
Here is a list of everything I managed to pick up in the mission:
4 water arrows
2 rope arrows
4 different keys
2 healing potions
2 speed potions
1 flashbomb
1 healing fruit
6 breads
1 carrot
7 wedges of cheese
downwinder on 27/6/2019 at 20:45
i also replayed all bigger jis missions and had a great time,most obscure objective i can think of for one missions was after knocking out 2 human guards with ape voices you have to drop them both in the lava pool below to continue mission
over all fun missions a lot of things are not used in missions that can confuse people ,so when i do i jis mission i always say go as far as you can then back track/rinse repeat
fortuni on 28/6/2019 at 01:24
IIRC the book TEST is the book the door giving you access to the factory area where the lever is that opens the sewer hatch. I don't know what you mean by the mission is not finished, JIS often made missions with little loot, few AI's and many empty rooms, but Hells Chapter 2 is finishable, the mission ends normally once you enter the sewers, as you did.
<Username> on 28/6/2019 at 05:40
I assumed the mission is not finished because the file is named "hell2_beta.zip", because all difficulty levels read "DEMO" and because the one readable book in the mission contains only the word "TEST".