FM Rating System (i.e. Nudity, Adult Themes) - by WretchedIntruder
yxlplig on 20/9/2014 at 18:53
Both "Being Thief" and "Exile (Being Thief 2)" have a naked woman using a shower. I know I've played a third mission that also had a naked woman in a shower, something from 2000-2002, but I cannot remember what is was. I'm pretty sure it was a female blue coat in a police station shower, if anyone with a better memory can think of what mission that would be. Also I'm sure there are plenty of missions with brothels, off hand I know TTGM Errand Boy has one.
I just wonder if it's really worth the community's time to put together a list like this. It's so subjective what content is not for children, and the amount of children playing these missions must be such a tiny group of people.
klatremus on 20/9/2014 at 23:22
IIRC Seven Sisters, Mission 2 has a brothel with a peephole that, when used, plays a scenario definitely unsuitable for children. As far as nudity and sexual content is concerned. T2X has a secret room with a bow upgrade and a naked woman.
karstenpontoppi on 21/9/2014 at 10:15
Naked women, naked women, naked women!!!
Now I know why my wife don't play Thief!
Total lack of naked men! :D:D:D
Could we have some, please? ;)
karstenpontoppi on 21/9/2014 at 10:28
And now the serious business:
I really can't see how it's OK to knock people out, kill them, steal and fight monsters, but nudity is the only thing that is bad?
WretchedIntruder is from Virginia.
The state in USA which have the second highest number in of death executions!
In Virginia it's peoples right to keep and bear firearms!
But nudity, it's just sooo not OK!
Odd World!!! :confused:
Sorry, couldn't help it!
I think this is total out of line! Could we please end it here?
In Denmark the children is having sex education from the age of 9. So no one of that age is affraid of nudity, and why the heck should they?
DrK on 21/9/2014 at 11:44
First of all, he didn't write that nudity is a problem :cheeky:, just that it bothers his son, or that it bothers him knowing his son could face it in a FM. He's the only person here to tell what's good or not for his son, and that's his problem only. We don't care about politics or ethics in Virginia, it's off-topic there. He's not saying nudity should be prohibited, he just wants to be warned about it.
But a few of you seem to focus on the nudity aspect of the problem, while the kid got frightened by a mission specifically designed for adults, and there are many FMs rather similar. As an example, I don't recall there's nudity in Shadows in our Blood, but the mission is heavily focused on the theme of torture, and that could be too tough to handle for a kid's mind as well.
While a 9 years old kid shouldn't play Thief 2 in the first place, I think it's fair to at least put a general warning for a few FMs.
Le MAlin 76 on 21/9/2014 at 13:06
There is no many FMs with whorehouse ;)
I think it's could be a good idea to warning the players if the FMs contains sexuals or highly violent scenes but for the all FMs produced from the begining to now i don't remember a FM which had this kind of scenes (maybe one or two with nudity, like T2X or others like was said in the top).
darthsLair on 22/9/2014 at 19:43
I should mention that in "Deadly Triangle", I placed "Sarah" in "Ramirez Mansion" in a back room. It should also be rated.
There is also a Murder.
Dale_ on 22/9/2014 at 20:30
Well, if someone's making a list of what could be disturbing for kids: From what I've played recently I'd say Cell 6 towards the end (it's still a great mission though!).
WretchedIntruder on 23/9/2014 at 00:14
I know it is a grey area between what is appropriate or not appropriate when it comes to such things as nudity, violence, etc. As far as nudity, I've only seen a few images/mods that were questionable, if at all. My main reference was to unexpected violence within the games perimeters of what is normally expected. We have a "no-attack" rule when it comes to human AIs. Anything other than knock outs is no allowed. If it's unavoidable in the mission, then we simply don't play it. Actually, my son came up with that idea. As I said, he's very mature for his age, which is why I took that into consideration when it came to the MATURE rating of Thief. Taking that into consideration, I was moreso addressing the missions that contain bloody murder scenes, impaled heads, and environments that have been created to be much more scary than the usual Thief gameplay. I think we've all had a few mission moments that were simply made to scare the shit out of us. All of that is okay with me. I was merely asking for whoever was willing to put a small note in thief FM introduction. This is not to insult the creations that these artists create, before anyone starts to blow that horn.
As with nudity, violence, etc. a mature rating, and maturity itself, is subject to observation.
WretchedIntruder on 23/9/2014 at 00:18
And BTW, thanks to all of you who took the time to read and respond to my post. Especially the bits of wisdom from the mission creators.
We do still have a few manners left in Ol Virginny. ;)