neux on 27/1/2018 at 14:05
Quote Posted by Random_Taffer
Just out of curiosity, what is your play style? I tried to keep it fairly open ended as far as options go...
I play a very uninvolved minimum risk ghost style, sticking to supreme rules mostly but prioritizing immersion.
Gloria Creep on 27/1/2018 at 22:00
I always use you're walkthroughs :angel:
Iceblade on 9/4/2018 at 15:34
I'm getting somewhat different numbers for 1999 and 2000 Thief 1 FMs.
1999: 51 releases with 44 missions and 7 demo missions (including Guardhouse 1 and Down We Go - Dromed only FMs)
2000: 46 releases with 37 single mission releases, 3 campaign releases, 4 demos, and 2 missions upgraded with Thief Gold (Pre-TTGM 1 and 2)
Do you have a list of the missions being counted by year?
Edit: Oh I see the issue, some of the missions are missing on KOMAG's list (especially those re-released in a campaign)
Edit 2:
Thief 1
1999: 52 releases
Single Mission Releases: 45 46
Demo Mission Releases: 7 6 (including Guardhouse 1 and Down We Go - Dromed only FMs, and Bloodflowers)
2000: 52 releases
Single Mission Releases: 41
Campaign Releases: 3
Demo Mission Releases: 5 (including the Dark Lord dromed-only mission by Dark_Lord)
One Mission Upgraded: Tears of Blood (originally included as the Escape from Guilesatpeak mission in the Journey campaign - would count as its own release according to the accepted release count rules)
Two Missions Re-Released for Thief Gold: Pre-TTGM 1 and 2 (Garrett's Revenge and Dockland)
Total New Missions: 45 (41 singles, 3 missions from The Order of the Vine campaign, and Escape from Guilesatpeak in the Journey campaign).
Total Releases per Accepted Release Rules: 45 (47 if you count the Thief Gold versions of Garrett's Revenge and Dockland)
Iceblade on 10/4/2018 at 05:30
Because there might be some curiosity viewing a more nuanced year-by-year progression, I have begun digging through the FM lists and categorizing the missions and breaking down the campaigns. The key figures are single releases, campaign releases, and total new missions.
Here is Thief 2 for the last few years.
Thief 2
2013: 44 Releases
Total New Missions: 38
Single Mission Releases: 32
Campaign Releases: 1
Campaign - New Missions: 6
New Dark Re-Releases: 11
2014: 40 Releases
Total New Missions: 23
Single Mission Releases: 13
Campaign Releases: 4
Campaign - New Missions: 10
New Dark Re-Releases: 23
2015: 21 Releases
Total New Missions: 24
Single Mission Releases: 18
Campaign Releases: 2
Campaign - New Missions: 6
New Dark Re-Releases: 1
2016: 21 Releases
Total New Missions: 22
Single Mission Releases: 16
Campaign Releases: 3
Campaign - New Missions: 6
New Dark Re-Releases: 2
2017: 21 Releases
Total New Missions: 52
Single Mission Releases: 15
Campaign Releases: 6
Campaign - New Missions: 37
New Dark Re-Releases: 0
* Mission Counts based on Southquarter FMs page
* Missions previously released do not count toward Campaign Totals (a rarity in recent years)
* Total missions for each campaign based on Ricebug's Campaign List. Two-parter campaigns also counted as two missions if not included in Ricebug's list (only a couple weren't on Ricebug's list).
fortuni on 10/4/2018 at 09:26
Quote Posted by Iceblade
Edit 2:
Thief 11999: 52 releases
Single Mission Releases: 45
Demo Mission Releases: 7 (including
Guardhouse 1 and
Down We Go - Dromed only FMs, and
Bloodflowers)
Bloodflowers is not a demo, the author never described it as such, nor does it demonstrate anything new for other FM authors to use in their missions, but for some unknown reason it is consistently referred to as a demo.
Does anyone know where this misinformation stems from? or is it simply because it is however a ridiculously small mission that you can finish in under 1 minute.
Iceblade on 10/4/2018 at 13:28
The title of the file: Bloodflowers_demo
fortuni on 10/4/2018 at 14:20
Thanks Iceblade, my copy, which I got off Thiefmissions doesn't have the word demo in the title, but the copy on TaffersP does.
Strictly speaking it still is not a demo, as are a number of the early contest missions that also have the word demo in their file tiles.
Yandros on 10/4/2018 at 20:01
I imagine some of the very early missions were referred to as "demos" since they were demonstrating that fan missions could be made at all.
Iceblade on 10/4/2018 at 23:07
I seem to recall a discussion about Bloodflowers and not including the release totals, but my searches through ttlg have turned up nil. Did the author mention that the mission was not a demo?
The file title was what I used to make a final decision when counting.
On another note, the campaigns did not make much of an impact on the number of new missions, which only went to the low 20s. Only 2017 saw a large impact from campaigns and these were rare, super-large campaigns that took many years to be completed. Pretty sure we won't have even one such 5+ mission campaign this year or next.
Yandros on 11/4/2018 at 00:51
I imagine The Black Parade will make it out by the end of 2019, but you make a good point. The new campaign which Random_Taffer and I and a few others started planning last fall is on hiatus now, still in the planning phase. Not sure when or if we'll get back to it.