lupus on 15/4/2014 at 20:02
I apologize for the title. I didn't realize it would be taken negatively. I agree with the change put it place. It is a better worded title.
@ fortuni Any examples would be good. I would thank you for any help you provide.
@ nightwalker I'm a little bit bit iffy with moving my install away from steam. :/ I'll definitely try though.
Overall, I love the new dark patch. It's an excellent addition to a great game.
yxlplig on 15/4/2014 at 21:37
I wouldn't apologize for the title. The vast, vast majority of FMs work with New Dark, the ones that do not are now literally broken. If someone want's to take that as a personal insult rather than a statement of impartial fact that's their problem. It's not a slight of anyone's work.
Anyway, you should follow Nightwalker's advice, I do the same thing now when I run into a problem. And actually it's one of the reasons I prefer Steam for Thief. Rename your "thief_gold" directory to something else (backupthief_gold) and then have Steam verify game files. It will download a brand new copy. Install TFix 1.10 (last version before New Dark). There now you have an extra copy for these situations.
lupus on 15/4/2014 at 23:40
Quote Posted by yxlplig
. . . Rename your "thief_gold" directory to something else (backupthief_gold) and then have Steam verify game files. It will download a brand new copy. Install TFix 1.10 (last version before New Dark). There now you have an extra copy for these situations.
Thanks, I didn't know you could do that. I'll definately make use of this feature. Would you recommend making a copy of thief 2?
yxlplig on 16/4/2014 at 00:00
I haven't had any reason to so far. Every single T2 FM I've played with New Dark has worked. Although I've only played about 90 for T2. Still, to answer your question, I'd say no not really.
Tannar on 16/4/2014 at 00:44
yxlplig's experience so far notwithstanding, I'd say that if you have enough hard drive space, go ahead and do the same thing for T2. Why not? Then you're set. Many authors are updating their older T2 missions for New Dark but many authors of older missions are no longer around and it's unlikely their missions will ever be updated.
Azaran on 16/4/2014 at 03:57
I don't remember any problems with T2 missions. T1 fm's have been mostly fine for me, but now I'm replaying Lorgan's Web, and there's a scripted event at the beginning that's bugged (the guards and hammerite are supposed to force their way into Garrett's apartment; now they yell, but after they just stand there in front of the door)
ZylonBane on 16/4/2014 at 04:02
Quote Posted by yxlplig
I wouldn't apologize for the title. The vast, vast majority of FMs work with New Dark, the ones that do not are now literally broken.
No they aren't "literally" broken, drama queen. They're incompatible. They still work fine under the Thief 1 engine.
Azaran on 16/4/2014 at 04:16
Aaaand, I just found a much more serious bug. The secret passage in the Hammer library no longer opens; frobbing the book does nothing :(
So this could mean a lot of unplayable FM's...
yxlplig on 16/4/2014 at 04:49
Quote Posted by ZylonBane
They're incompatible. They still work fine under the Thief 1 engine.
You'll have to forgive me, I'm not used to talking to such sensitive people. When I said that they literally break when using New Dark I meant the same thing you said here. Please whenever I say anything barbaric just go ahead and translate it into something less offensive. I promise I'm not trying to be rude here.
lupus on 16/4/2014 at 07:32
Quote Posted by Azaran
Aaaand, I just found a much more serious bug.
The secret passage in the Hammer library no longer opens; frobbing the book does nothing :(
So this could mean a lot of unplayable FM's...
That's unfortunate to hear. :erg: Does that mean that book triggers don't work? or just that specific mission's triggers?
