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Herr_Garrett on 3/9/2009 at 19:16

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Epic...?

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AntiMatter_16 on 3/9/2009 at 20:14

I think it's pretty epic. Especially when you want to have a LAN party, and no one has to bring their computers. =P

Yandros on 3/9/2009 at 20:28

Quote Posted by mudi

Well since the 4550 is so similar to the 4650 it probably would work if I'd disable ddfix. Actually I ought to try it out. I will later today...

Quote Posted by Bikerdude

I'm fairly sure that DDFix does support fog on the HD 3xxx/4xxx cards(Im sure Yandros is using it), what catalyst version are you using..?

I am in fact using DDFix, yes, as well as the Widescreen patch in case that makes any difference. I'll report version numbers when I get home tonight.

mudi on 3/9/2009 at 21:49

My ATI driver is 8.612.0.0 dated 4/28/2009

My card is a Sapphire ATI HD4550 +HDMI, which is a step below the 4650.

My Thief2 is 1.18 with the latest ddfix and then the widescreen patch used to set the resolution.

(Oddly enough, I bought this card not expecting it to work with games at all, but I find even with modern games it works with detail settings at medium!)

Yandros on 4/9/2009 at 02:14

My ddfix.dll file version is 1.3.11.0, dated 28-May-2008. Mudi, maybe you need to use an older version of ddfix if this one I use is not the latest?

Albert on 4/9/2009 at 03:26

Quote Posted by AntiMatter_16

My solution is just to own enough computers and operating systems such that any program will inevitably work (correctly) on one of them. I think I own about... 20?

Hmm, I should start building my old pc collection again...

Though the flea markets right now are ridiculous: $125 for a p3.

mudi on 4/9/2009 at 03:40

Same ddfix as mine. What's your ATI Driver version?

Yandros on 4/9/2009 at 04:04

8.612.0.0 as well. Perhaps the 4550 just doesn't do fog in Vista?

What version of DirectX do you have installed? I'm running 10.

For grins, here are the system and display sections of my dxdiag output:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 9/3/2009, 23:59:11
Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.090302-1506)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Inspiron 530s
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E7200 @ 2.53GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.5GHz
Memory: 4094MB RAM
Page File: 1998MB used, 6408MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4650
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9498)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9498&SUBSYS_E109174B&REV_00
Display Memory: 2297 MB
Dedicated Memory: 506 MB
Shared Memory: 1791 MB
Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: SyncMaster 2333SW/2333GW/2333SWPLUS,SyncMaster Magic CX2333GW(Analog)
Driver Name: atiumdag,atidxx32,atidxx64.dll,atiumdva,atiumd64.dll,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver Version: 8.14.0010.0662 (English)
DDI Version: 10.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 4/28/2009 21:52:02, 3082752 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D7D8-11CF-6D76-03C1A1C2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x9498
SubSys ID: 0xE109174B
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C

mudi on 4/9/2009 at 04:59

OK...

Code:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 9/3/2009, 22:57:38
Machine name: COMPYQ9300
Operating System: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit (6.1, Build 7100) (7100.winmain_win7rc.090421-1700)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: HP-Pavilion
System Model: NC829AA-ABA a6857c
BIOS: BIOS Date: 02/23/09 14:47:06 Ver: 5.37
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9300 @ 2.50GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.5GHz
Memory: 8192MB RAM
Available OS Memory: 8192MB RAM
Page File: 2516MB used, 9768MB available
Windows Dir: C:\Windows
DirectX Version: DirectX 11
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
User DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
DxDiag Version: 6.01.7100.0000 32bit Unicode

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Display Devices
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Card name: ATI Radeon HD 4550
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI Radeon Graphics Processor (0x9540)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9540&SUBSYS_E970174B&REV_00
Display Memory: 3571 MB
Dedicated Memory: 503 MB
Shared Memory: 3067 MB
Current Mode: 1920 x 1080 (32 bit) (59Hz)
Monitor Name: HP w2338h Wide LCD Monitor
Monitor Model: HP w2338h
Monitor Id: HWP281B
Native Mode: 1920 x 1080(p) (60.000Hz)
Output Type: HD15
Driver Name: atiumd64.dll,atidxx64.dll,atiumdag,atidxx32,atiumdva,atiumd6a.cap,atitmm64.dll
Driver File Version: 8.14.0010.0662 (English)
Driver Version: 8.612.0.0
DDI Version: 10.1
Driver Model: WDDM 1.1
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 4/29/2009 02:47:30, 4006400 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: n/a
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-D600-11CF-6D76-7AC9A1C2C535}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x9540
SubSys ID: 0xE970174B
Revision ID: 0x0000
Driver Strong Name: oem94.inf:ATI.Mfg.NTamd64.6.1:ati2mtag_R7X:8.612.0.0:pci\ven_1002&dev_9540
Rank Of Driver: 00E62001
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bikerdude on 4/9/2009 at 13:06

Quote Posted by Yandros

8.612.0.0 as well. Perhaps the 4550 just doesn't do fog in Vista?

They are both based on the same tech, but the 4550 but the slower chip.

(http://www.amd.com/UK/PRODUCTS/DESKTOP/GRAPHICS/ATI-RADEON-HD-4000/Pages/ati-radeon-hd-4000-series.aspx) Amd link