Koki on 12/6/2009 at 07:57
Quote Posted by Stath MIA
Ah, the Herald of Hatred has spoken.
I see you have quite the reputation here van HellSing, I am pleased!
You guys are forgetting the girl is THIAF's protagonist. So you can't retcon her. That'd be stupid, no?
Stath MIA on 12/6/2009 at 17:42
Quote Posted by Koki
You guys are forgetting the girl is THIAF's protagonist. So you can't retcon her.
God, I hope not. EM should know enough to stick with Garrett.
Platinumoxicity on 12/6/2009 at 18:06
Quote Posted by Koki
I see you have quite the reputation here van HellSing, I am pleased!
You guys are forgetting the girl is THIAF's protagonist. So you can't retcon her. That'd be stupid, no?
Sometimes minor retcon is acceptable, you see:
Absolute continuity + TDS = Girl = Good continuity, bad Thief game
Retroactive continuity + TDS = Garrett = Something's missing but I can't really put my finger on it, still a good Thief game.
See? You disarm the "plot trap" that Ion Storm rigged in the end of TDS, and the result is that some absolute continuity junkies see only the retcon in the transition from TDS to T4 and moan about it. :nono: Those, on the other had, who don't care about the girl, don't necessarily even notice that she's "missing" and focus on the fact that "T4 has been released, holy taffin' cripes!" :cheeky:
Bad retcon is this: There's a shop in T4 that's owner "Don't take kindly to people with metal eye transplants" and we have to forget that Garrett lost his eye because otherwise Garrett can't enter the shop. Garrett's eye was a major event that affected the entire series.
The girl had 30 seconds of screentime, hastily added in the very end of TDS and she said about 4 words in a conversation that was cut short by the devs to leave the chance that Garrett returns one day.
pwyll on 16/6/2009 at 16:18
The girl cannot be ignored. She's already a part of the story.
AbysmalGale on 16/6/2009 at 16:24
Quote Posted by pwyll
The girl cannot be ignored. She's already a part of the story.
That's not what everyone thinks. However, if she'll be mentioned I don't mind. But giving her a too big part of Thief 4 would disgust me.
Platinumoxicity on 16/6/2009 at 16:29
Yeah, she is a part of the story. A very, very small part of a very, very big story.
Koki on 16/6/2009 at 19:15
Quote Posted by Stath MIA
God, I hope not. EM should know enough to stick with Garrett.
Well, let me put it this way. Bethesda should know well enough to stick with isometry and turn based combat.
negative_len on 16/6/2009 at 20:09
Quote Posted by pwyll
The girl cannot be ignored. She's already a part of the story.
She is not a part of the story! She's an adjunct. A reference. A storytelling technique. Like alliteration. Next they're going to give the comma a death scene.
pwyll on 16/6/2009 at 23:18
You can say/think whatever you want. You can even selfmislead yourselves but the fact is the fact - she is a part of it. :sly:
Dia on 16/6/2009 at 23:29
O. m. g. How on God's green earth do you figure that a little girl at the END of the game who tries to pick Garrett's pocket and is given one short line of dialogue is a PART of the Garrett's story??? That would be like saying a random stranger Garrett walked past on the street in the end cutscene and nodded to (because the stranger could see him) was a part of the story. Which said stranger wouldn't be. Ergo, neither was the little girl. The little girl didn't play a part in the actual storyline of TDS, did she? Nope. Didn't think so. She was a frackin' prop used by the devs to illustrate that Garrett's story had come full circle.
*goes into another room to allow head to explode in private*
:p
