VampThief on 27/9/2006 at 15:50
Then the fire died and come the wet season the crater was filled with water and then came the winter and there appeard a mighty frost on the water.
Garret then built his underground ice castle.
Then he died.
Then became a zombie.
Then another Thief also called Garret killed him.
Then died and became a zombie.
Then another Thief also called Garret killed him.
Then died and became a zombie
Then another Thief also called Garret killed him.
Then died and became a zombie and so forth and so on....
Now everythime you see some "frost on the water" you will remember this post... :eww:
themetalian on 27/9/2006 at 16:32
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Now everythime you see some "frost on the water" you will remember this post... :eww:
More like "A Touch of Frost." :p
DarthMRN on 27/9/2006 at 17:56
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Thief 1 - [SPOILER]The trickster takes his eye so he owes he is motivated by revenge, i imagine if this had not happened he would never have gone to the maw or confronted the Trickster.[/SPOILER]
The revenge thing is sound enough, but I don't remember him being all that emotional about it afterwards. His concern was for the City, was my impression. His argumentation for going to the Hammers were that he needed help, but I never got the impression this was for revenge. G's not that kind of guy.
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Thief 2 - [SPOILER]It is only his feelings for Viktoria that he decided to take action, if left to his own devices i do not think garret would have moved in time if he had decided to make a move at all[/SPOILER]
Agreed. He wouldn't have acted on his own before it was too late otherwise.
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Thief 3 - [SPOILER]the hag sets him up and he is forced to clear his name[/SPOILER]
Seems more like a self-defence thing to me. The killing itself I mean. But once again, the City was on his mind. His playground was at stake.
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In all three cases the actions of the villians bring about thier own demise. If they had simply left garret alone he would never have cared enough to be involved. They all provide the motive for thier own downfall.
In Consts' case there would have been no threat without G to begin with. In the other cases, I agree.
Though, as with Anakin, prophesy sometimes needs prophesy to bring itself about.
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Is this correct? i am not faulting Garret, he is great and real thrill to play i just wondered what your opinions on him are. is he a cold blooded murdered?
You are mostly correct AFAIK. I think G is pretty cold-blooded, and more than willing to kill if the alternative is more risk than it is worth. His anti-kill principles stem more from his sense of professionalism than his morality. Plus, killing means noise and mess, which is obviously impractical for a Thief.
Solabusca on 27/9/2006 at 18:25
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Now everythime you see some "frost on the water" you will remember this post... :eww:
Ummmmm... no.
It's just stupid enough to invite comment, but not memorable enough to linger.
Hell, I'll forget it within a half-hour.
.j.
Random_Taffer on 27/9/2006 at 18:28
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You are mostly correct AFAIK. I think G is pretty cold-blooded, and more than willing to kill if the alternative is more risk than it is worth. His anti-kill principles stem more from his sense of professionalism than his morality. Plus, killing means noise and mess, which is obviously impractical for a Thief.
I think this is what Garrett tells himself. He is more sensitive than he thinks, IMO...
DarthMRN on 27/9/2006 at 21:00
Well, duh. Once they rebuild the Shalebridge cradle, who do you think is going to be prospect no. 1 (no pun intended) for the Criminally Insane wing? And I do mean so insane it's criminal.
This is also why there will be no Thief 4. G's coolness factor wouldn't have survived being commited to the loony bin, graybearded and wearing a strait-jacket, as would have been the natural outcome of that game.
ercles on 28/9/2006 at 00:54
What the hell are you guys on about now? Garrett being committed to Shalebridge? Somehow I don't think the city will be too keen to rebuild a haunted asylum, don't forget the place is still haunted after Garrett left, it's not like the final glyph excorcised it...
RavynousHunter on 1/10/2006 at 18:22
no, Garrett's awesomeness exorcised it. :cheeky: the title of this thread was misleading. i also dont think Garrett kills, much, too much mess and too much noise. a nice concussion is an easy and silent solution. i think the reason for the guard being killed in the T2 intro was, as someone said before, to appeal to more people. though i think, if worse comes to worse, Garrett would kill if he absolutely had to.
ercles on 2/10/2006 at 06:02
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no, Garrett's awesomeness exorcised it. :cheeky: the title of this thread was misleading. i also dont think Garrett kills, much, too much mess and too much noise. a nice concussion is an easy and silent solution. i think the reason for the guard being killed in the T2 intro was, as someone said before, to appeal to more people. though i think, if worse comes to worse, Garrett would kill if he absolutely had to.
It took me about three times to read that and figure out what you were on about, watch where you stick those commas buddy. Of course Garrett would kill if he had to, I don't think there is any love lost between him and those guards.
BlueMage on 2/10/2006 at 09:07
Consider this: Garrett had no parent figures (save perhaps Artemis) so no-one to tell him he was doing a good job as he was growing up. This, in part, would be why he was taken in by Constantine - an almost-parental admiration of his ability. Anyways.
He reaches adulthood, and he's at the top of his game - though no-one can ever appreciate his ability, as if they were to see it they'd become a liability. He longs to be able to demonstrate his level of skill though. Who better, then, to demonstrate it to than the people he works it upon. You'll notice that no other thieves seem to carry non-lethal weapons - so presumably, Garrett's the only one. Thus, he demonstrates his skill by not killing.
That's what it is to him - it's a matter of pride. His ability is such that he doesn't need to kill.
Of course, in a choice between life and pride, I think I know which one'll win.
