Yakoob on 1/5/2012 at 20:48
Seriously, dethtoll, everyone bitches about something and then goes and does it anyway. I bitch at the boba tea being too sweet but I still drank it cause hey im already here and I paid for it. And lost_soul isn't really worth getting yourself antsy-pantsy in half the threads he posts about the same thing over and over...
Quote Posted by Sulphur
Well, of course the entire catalogue won't be. That'd involve every single developer recoding their titles for native Linux support - meaning, retooling everything for OpenGL. Too much work for most. Not happening.
Quote Posted by lost_soul
It would be easier for them to make the necessary fixes to wine if they wanted the entire catalog of games to work. It can already run most of them to some extent.
Which actually is not unreasonable; after all, half of GoG games work via DosBox or SCUMVV. I remember when I was working on Star Trek DAC and got another company to port it for the MAC; I think they used some sort of emulation solution as well rather than hacking our code away.
Perhaps this wont happen for newest triple-A titles, but 2-3 year older games should fare just fine in an emulated environment (and, as GoG again shows, there is definitely market for it, especially in the Linux community which is usually behind the curve on the gaming front).
See, the problem here is that the pro-open-source developers assume a fantasy world that simply doesn't exist. In their vision, driver goes open source:
* NVidia makes drivers open source
* bored linux devs make awesome drivers
* users download, hooray everybody wins!
In reality, it would go something like this:
* NVidia makes drivers open source
* bored linux devs make five different drivers
* the user is confused which one to choose
* enter age of constantly swapping drivers because each one is optimized differently and gives varying performance with various games (as if that already isnt an issue wtih official ones)
* eventually a maliscious dev injects spyware into the driver or a newbie commits a bug that fries half of the GPUs
* users, who dont know and dont care, blame NVidia and their "crappy cards" for the problems
* NVidia gets tons of flak and suffers major losses
woop-de-doo. I dont blame them for not going down this route.
However, it could work IF the drivers were closely monitored and there was a formal process of submitting/downloading them (NVidia DriverStore like iPhone AppStore).
But again, if I was NVidia, WHY would I want to go through all that if I can just have my internal team develop drivers that are ensured to be well-optimized AND safe and wont hurt my brand image?
Jason Moyer on 1/5/2012 at 20:51
What skews the humble bundle numbers more than anything are all of the developers who donate $1000+ the moment the bundle goes live. Notch regularly adds a couple dollars to the average Lunix purchase by himself.
PS If all you tards are going to run a unix-like you could at least choose one that doesn't blow ass.
lost_soul on 1/5/2012 at 21:03
"In reality, it goes something like this........"
Now that, I agree with! You forgot to mention that all the distros would adopt the ones which "work fine" (and by work fine I mean produce a constant lag while playing games, They did it for the audio subsystem... lol
Also, I do have respect for game developers who work hard on projects. The other day I read this: (
http://www.dallasobserver.com/1999-01-14/news/stormy-weather/)
The idea that a few people kept working on a product after most of the team quit and all that bad stuff was going on and in the end managed to release it deserves some respect.
Briareos H on 1/5/2012 at 22:42
Quote Posted by Jason Moyer
PS If all you tards are going to run a unix-like you could at least choose one that doesn't blow ass.
I couldn't agree more.
lost_soul on 1/5/2012 at 23:18
I'm actually hoping AMD gets their Linux drivers up to scratch before later this year because I want a netbook that can play TDM and trinity might be able to do it. I currently have an Atom based one and it has no chance in hell of playing that.
Al_B on 1/5/2012 at 23:46
Quote Posted by lost_soul
I'm actually hoping AMD gets their Linux drivers up to scratch before later this year because I want a netbook that can play TDM and trinity might be able to do it. I currently have an Atom based one and it has no chance in hell of playing that.
Odd - I'd have thought you'd be really keen on the NVidia ION platform since that's already established and has at least a reasonable chance of performance despite the processor.
lost_soul on 2/5/2012 at 00:00
Yep, I doubt the Atom could handle it very well. TDM used to bog down pretty bad when I played it on a P4 in areas with lots of AIs.
lost_soul on 6/6/2012 at 19:46
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http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTExMzA)
Make of this screen capture what you will. It is supposedly proof, but I know if I were the CEO, I wouldn't respond like that unless I wanted lots of e-mails asking me the same thing over again for confirmation . Well okay, maybe a few e-mails... lol
And no, I didn't send one.
Screen captures are EASILY faked though... wonder if this one was? Also the new Carmageddon is coming for Linux.
june gloom on 6/6/2012 at 19:57
That kind of terse response is absolutely Gabe's style, though.
Jason Moyer on 7/6/2012 at 02:16
I'll give a shit if this runs ok with freeBSD's linux emu libraries.