Games that teach, and I don't just mean Edutainment (blurgh!) games. - by SubJeff
SubJeff on 15/12/2012 at 16:30
Social interactions in real life have many qualities that online interactions don't. There is body language and nuance of voice for starters. You can't just say "ok gtg, nn" in real life. Someone is looking at (insecure) you in real life.
I think that keyboard comms are a totally different form of interaction and you can't equate that to face to face communication.
And I'm really glad to see your website.
Aja on 15/12/2012 at 23:22
When I was 16, never having driven on ice before, I impressed my driving instructor during the emergency manoeuvres portion of my driving training, and I owed it all to Gran Turismo.
Sulphur on 16/12/2012 at 13:09
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Just got to Bug Mars and got my work visa! NOW I'M UNDERWATER IN A MAZE!
Sulp, is that you narrating the history of boxing?
No, that's some other guy. You can tell by the lack of echo.
Did you get past the text adventure? When I got there, it was like getting smacked in the face with Infocom-flavoured deja vu.
demagogue on 16/12/2012 at 14:10
My Japanese has gotten a boost from games, girlfriends, movies, tv, and comics about in equal measure. Games are good, but their subject matter are a little more restrictive than western games I think.
Yakoob on 16/12/2012 at 17:44
dema - I am proud of myself for completing Final Fantasy 5 entirely in Japanese and actually understanding wtf was going on :) but my nintendo DS japanese dictionary never left my side during that time haha.
I kinda wanna play/watch more stuff in Japanese to brush up the language (I've been forgetting it slowly ugh) but I'm not quite enough of an otaku I'm afraid to really be into too many of them :/
EvaUnit02 on 17/12/2012 at 00:53
Quote Posted by Yakoob
I kinda wanna play/watch more stuff in Japanese to brush up the language (I've been forgetting it slowly ugh) but I'm not quite enough of an otaku I'm afraid to really be into too many of them :/
Play Megami Tensei titles. They're probably the only JRPGs that I can stomach these days, they're that compelling.
ZylonBane on 17/12/2012 at 01:43
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
You can't just say "ok gtg, nn" in real life.
You know that somewhere, a teenage girl just did exactly this.
CCCToad on 17/12/2012 at 07:18
On the Civ note..
Anyone else remember playing Age of Empires?
demagogue on 17/12/2012 at 07:24
Of course. AoE2 IMO perfected the whole RTS gameplay. It's sort of educational in the economic sense like limiting factors (you can't build houses if you run out of wood first), not sure about the historical part.
I remember reading some critique about it and Civ's treatment of history. One point it made was criticizing when they're trying to shoehorn gameplay into history that didn't really work that way. So e.g., the Persians never really had a "medieval" period between the ancient and modern eras as you'd understand that in the European sense (was the point it was making), so when the game tries to divides Persian civilization into that (with different art & technology) it's just off track. (IIRC the makers asked him as an expert what the art for medieval Persia should look like, and he replied that the category never really existed.) It's just a historical error if you try to understand its history in those terms and shoehorn events into that category just to fit with the European track.
You could say similar things about the technology tree generally, that cultures have a single path forward, which doesn't really fit a lot of cultures. China & Japan & Egypt had well developed cultures too, but they just went on completely different tracks and divisions than European history. So you can probably be misinformed just as much as informed by games.
