Gamestop in hot water because of evil game publishers (lawsuit filed). - by lost_soul
Enchantermon on 26/3/2010 at 19:37
Quote Posted by Phatose
Well, if they're going to resell it, and it has a big ad for free dlc on the box they put it out in, is it really unreasonable to expect them to make a note on the box of their reselling package?
The fact that the game is used should already throw up flags, especially when coupled with a statement mentioning that a code is needed to unlock the content. Honestly, one of my thoughts before purchasing the game would be "What if someone already used the code?" I don't think it's unreasonable for GameStop to expect people to use common sense. Sure, it would be helpful and decent of them to put up a sign or something, but the fact that the game is used should be the first clue that the potential for the code to be used is there.
Quote Posted by Phatose
They know the DLC is $15 for used owners, but still sell it used for only $5 less then new. They knew what they were doing, and there was deceptive intent there.
How are they supposed to know offhand the cost of the DLC of every game they sell? Plus, how are they supposed to know whether or not the code has already been used?
Phatose on 26/3/2010 at 19:40
A $5 less used game doesn't seem like much, but try explaining to a wife that you need to spend the extra $5 for new for what are presumably the same exact game.
8.3% ain't much, but it's greater then 0%, and and you don't have to explain why you're a money wasting idiot.
Enchantermon, they sell the game. They set a price for what they'll pay to buy the game back, and what'll they'll resell it for. Doing so merits being fairly knowledgeable about the game. They know damn well about the DLC, they know why it exists, precisely to address their $5 off used sales. This is not a mystery to them, and they know full damn well the code is going to be used up. When you're in the business of selling a product, you know about it.
It's a console game if I'm not mistaken, and the whole free DLC with code is awfully new there. Your typical console gamer isn't going to expect a used copy won't be equivalent to a new one, because this is a new sales method.
Briareos H on 26/3/2010 at 19:44
Quote Posted by Phatose
try explaining to a wife that you need to spend the extra $5 for new for what are presumably the same exact game
"By paying this game new, I'm actually giving some money to the people who made the game so that they can make more of them."
Renault on 26/3/2010 at 20:06
I'm fine with saying Gamestop is in the wrong here, but I don't think that's the point. Just give the guy his $10 back and end it. What I want to know is why the hell this guy thinks he's entitled to restitution and damages? WTF, for what? :wot:
lost_soul on 26/3/2010 at 20:12
Some people choose to support the used market because that is the only place where competition actually happens. There are no equivalents to Thief. There is no other game you can buy that will provide the same experience.
With the used market, people try to undercut each-other. Tom could sell a used copy of Thief for $15, but Jim may sell it for $10. Thus, we do not have one sole monopoly dictating prices to everyone. This helps keep prices down. This guy DID get ripped off though. I'm sure he could have found the game used at a much better price. Some people just want the product right now though, and they don't want to wait for it to be shipped used from Amazon.
Enchantermon on 26/3/2010 at 20:22
Quote Posted by Phatose
. . . they know full damn well the code is going to be used up.
They can't possibly know that for certain. If I bought a game, I would play through it completely before worrying about any DLC that may have come with it. If I were to play the game and then decide that I don't like it and I want to sell it to GameStop, I'm not going to worry about the DLC and will just sell it to them with the unused code included. There are perfectly legitimate circumstances under which the code may not have been used, and GameStop can't know one way or the other.
Swiss Mercenary on 26/3/2010 at 21:00
Quote Posted by Briareos H
"By paying this game new, I'm actually giving some money to the people who made the game so that they can make more of them."
Except that you are. Buying it used meant that someone got some money back from selling back the game, which they probably spent on another game.
Tonamel on 26/3/2010 at 22:31
Just so we're all clear, this is what we're arguing over: It explicitly says the DLC is $15, and immediately under that says you only get the DLC with a full retail purchase. Hardly ambiguous.
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http://eponym-audio.com/images/DADLC.jpglost_soul on 27/3/2010 at 00:13
... and it expires in a given amount of time, unless I (the original purchaser) claim the DLC quickly. Since we all know hardware lasts forever, I surely won't ever have to download it again and pay the $15.
When I was young, games came complete. It saddens me that the industry pulls scams like these, and that people actually fall for them. Now It is back to Duke Nukem 3D for me.
Zerker on 27/3/2010 at 11:57
I believe it stays tied to your account for however many re-downloads you may need. Regardless, the expiry is disheartening, as I'm not really in a position to splurge on Dragon Age or Mass Effect 2 at this point in time, even though I will pick them up in the future. We'll see how the steam versions fare in this regard...
