Harvester on 30/10/2013 at 11:15
My backlog is way too large now and I also have a PS3 to play games on nowadays, and I have less time to play games than I used to, so I just bought Painkiller: Black for 2 Euros and left it at that.
WingedKagouti on 30/10/2013 at 11:50
Quote Posted by Shadowcat
So "Outlast" is currently on sale for ~$13.40 at various places, including:
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http://www.gog.com/game/outlast)
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http://redbarrelsgames.com/) (the developer, via Humble Store)
GOG has made me suddenly wary of their ability to supply patches for large games -- they currently require people to re-download all 6+GB of Shadow Warrior to get their most recent update (and are still lagging behind Steam by a couple of releases) which is completely nuts. I'm unsure whether GOG or Flying Wild Hog are to blame, but sadly my money is on GOG, because they always seem to use their own custom patcher.
However, I don't think I have any experience of game patches provided via the Humble Store either. I've seen games updates with new installers, but they've always been small enough that I didn't mind re-downloading. However if patches are available for Humble Store games, right now I'd have rather more faith in the developer's ability to providing them than I do of GOG.
Anyone have any insights?
Depends on what is being patched. I've had games that required a full redownload due to several art/level assets (which is what takes up most of the space in the first place) being changed and others that only needed a 2-5MB patch. GOG's policy on this seems to be that extensive changes require a redownload to avoid cascading patch issues, ex. 1.0.1->1.0.2->1.0.3->1.0.4->1.0.5 messing up due to an error happening in 1.0.3.
I just checked the patch notes and:
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- Fixed more places throughout the game where players could get stuck or fall below level geometry.
Would mean that a "patch" would likely be in the GB range already since it would have to apply to every version from 1.0.0 to the current.
Doesn't make it any less annoying when you have to wait for those GB to tick in.
Valve/Steam does it differently due to having a client that checks each file to find out what exactly needs to be updated (comparing your version to the one on their server), but even they had some several GB patches prior to implementing this.
Shadowcat on 30/10/2013 at 12:32
I think part of GOG's problem is that they don't seem to want to use cumulative patches, when sometimes that is the only sane choice. (I suspect they justify it with an argument that it simplifies things for the end-user, but there can be a stupid cost to blindly using that approach everywhere.)
As for changes to the larger data files, all the game needs to do is allow the original data to be overridden, and then the patches just provide those overrides (and even if the individual files are still large, they're not going to be 6GB large). These kinds of problems were solved a long time ago.
EvaUnit02 on 31/10/2013 at 01:11
All hail SteamPipe's delta-patching. This is the price you pay for being a hippy.
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http://www.iforce.co.nz/View.aspx?i=hcq2wyd4.4cb.jpg)
Inline Image:
http://iforce.co.nz/i/hcq2wyd4.4cb.jpgI only buy old games from GOG, since they put in the extra leg-work to achieve compatibility on modern hardware and systems (there are exceptions of course, like Two Worlds 1 & 2 which have horrendous 3rd party draconian DRM on the Steam versions).
On the other hand I DON'T buy older games from Steam unless I have to, because the publishers usually just dump catalogue games onto the service and make customers fend for themselves, eg Manhunt 1. If enough people complain, Valve may put a "Game X isn't compatible with OS Y and/or Hardware Z" warning message on the store page and leave it at that.
june gloom on 31/10/2013 at 01:34
can i just say i'd like to ban evabot from ever using the burger king meme or any variants of it ever again please please please
gunsmoke on 5/11/2013 at 19:05
Come on, now, it's part of his 'thing' like your jet... KEEP KINGIN' BABE.
june gloom on 5/11/2013 at 20:46
man i don't even use the plane anymore
like i got an airplane emoticon on steam and i PUT IT UP FOR SALE
