june gloom on 15/11/2010 at 05:00
Are you fucking retarded?
If you don't have a CD/DVD drive and the game you're using requires a disc check,HOW THE FUCK DO YOU INSTALL THE GAME?
Get out.
sNeaksieGarrett on 15/11/2010 at 05:02
Where are you getting this notion of "guy in a basement" ? I thought we were talking about steam? You're accusing steam of being "some guy in a basement"?:confused:
What's the big deal? You're saying you never want to use a CD drive? It's not the game developers' faults that you don't have a CD drive. Don't most if not all games list that you need a drive on the box?
edit: I think I see what you mean lost_soul. You were referring to amazon.com selling copies of the game, but the sellers being third parties who could have fucked with the game, right ?
lost_soul on 15/11/2010 at 05:55
Quote Posted by dethtoll
Are you fucking retarded?
If you don't have a CD/DVD drive and the game you're using requires a disc check,HOW THE FUCK DO YOU INSTALL THE GAME?
Get out.
Hard drives, Thumb drives, SD cards, home networks, etc. We could install the games to an SD card and run them from there, or transfer them via an external hard drive. That is how I installed my GOG games on the netbook.
@sNeaksieGarrett: You shouldn't trust game files that have been modified by some random guy online to skip disk checks. That is what I'm talking about. Steam and GOG aren't random guys on the Internet. They're authorized by the game vendor and trustworthy. If I pay for a game, I expect it to work for me without taking those kinds of risks. I've even seen reports that games refuse to work on 64-bit versions of Windows because the game insists on loading some driver to check for the disk. Unacceptable and inexcusable. I think it would be impossible for a reseller to tamper with a game they are selling on Amazon. Those disks are pressed with a machine, and it would be beyond difficult to modify the lands/pits on the disk to contain malicious data.
june gloom on 15/11/2010 at 06:01
Nope, still retarded- if you're installing a game that comes on a disc, how the fuck do you get it off the disc? It's not going to just magically transfer to a thumb drive. I mean, sure, there's alternatives like digital distribution (which, aside from gog.com, is generally not DRM free therefore it's evil and Satan and badevilshitty blah blah blah) but what you are saying is basically unsound. Not everyone has access to multiple computers; some of us can only afford the one. Now, I understand if you have multiple computers that you bought with the money you saved not buying games for stupid reasons, but you can't possibly think you're not a special case. Because you are. Like your education.
lost_soul on 15/11/2010 at 06:18
Most desktop PCs made for the past fifteen years have had optical drives. A pentium 4 machine can be had for ~$100, or free if you look hard enough. It isn't so easy or practical to get a netbook with a CD drive. The idea behind these things is to be portable, which doesn't go hand and hand with bulky media that must spin at thousands of RPMs. If I want to play some of my old DOS games on the netbook, I can install them on my desktop to an SD card and then stick it in the netbook... Done! Same goes for floppies. I don't have any floppy-based games though. I always hated those things.
Koki on 15/11/2010 at 06:55
Quote Posted by Renzatic
But it's not exactly the same thing, regardless what the publishers say. For Addink to buy a game used, someone at some point had to buy the game new. The publishers have received money for at least one copy. That's quite a bit different than piracy, where if the pirate never gets around to buying the game, the publisher never sees dime one from that potential customer.
I never mentioned used copies, I'm talking about re-releases which I assume was what addink meant when he said bargain bins. Shit like Sold Out Software, White Label, Black Diamond Game Series to name just a few in UK alone.
Though buying used games is not all that different really. You still don't register as a sold unit on publisher's radar. You still don't "vote".
It's not about supporting the market, as you said yourself it survived worse. It's about buying good games so they make more of them and not buying shit games so they make less of them.
june gloom on 15/11/2010 at 07:42
Quote Posted by lost_soul
Most desktop PCs made for the past fifteen years have had optical drives. A pentium 4 machine can be had for ~$100, or free if you look hard enough. It isn't so easy or practical to get a netbook with a CD drive. The idea behind these things is to be portable, which doesn't go hand and hand with bulky media that must spin at thousands of RPMs. If I want to play some of my old DOS games on the netbook, I can install them on my desktop to an SD card and then stick it in the netbook... Done! Same goes for floppies. I don't have any floppy-based games though. I always hated those things.
You're forgetting that I don't care to get a 2nd PC just so I can install everything to a thumb drive. (Nor do I have a place for it but that's neither here or there.) I mean I can understand going through the trouble for a netbook, but your whole argument here is based on the concept that disk checks are evil, yet you're too much of a fucking paranoid crank to use cracks. Yes, there are a few situations where the crack is less than useful- what happened to Titan Quest is a good example of cracks gone hilariously wrong- but at this point a lot of people don't even see a moral quandary in using them for a game they legitimately purchased, let alone suffer tinfoil-hat paranoia like yours.
Why are you even here, anyway? We're here to talk about games, yet all you ever talk about is how much companies are evil and that you won't purchase or play games on the basis of some bullshit ideology. With all the money you save not buying games maybe you can buy yourself a penis.
Seriously, you're a tool and nobody really likes you, not even the other Linux users. Why you continue to stay here baffles me. Go watch some anime or something.
Nameless Voice on 15/11/2010 at 09:42
All this talk of installing games on a desktop and then copying them to a laptop remind me of... oh, right, how I've put Steam games on my laptop, to run in offline mode.
Not that most games would even run on my laptop, and far, far fewer would run on a netbook, so it's a bit of a foolish point all around.
lost_soul on 15/11/2010 at 18:16
You would be surprised what those netbooks can do. I've seen videos of them playing GTA Vice City/San Andreas, UT2004, and other games from around that time. They've even got netbooks with NVIDIA GPUs that can play half-life 2.
Mr.Duck on 15/11/2010 at 18:19
I'm replacing all my physical PC games with digital versions (as you noticed by my backlog). Best of all, getting games I thought I'd never A)see again or B)ever buy in my life since I missed'em at their original release.
:)
