all on 28/5/2007 at 17:37
Did Garrett evolve since the beginning of Thief: the Dark Project? I'm interested in your opinion regarding his personnality or/and physical evolution. On of my observations is that, after Constantine removes one of his eyes, Garrett appears to be more willing to cooperate with other subjects (Keepers, Hammerites) in order to achieve his goals. What do you think about this?
ganac on 28/5/2007 at 18:13
Temporarily. After T1, he becomes the lone wolf again. Although the favor for Basso is a little unusual. Other than that, he is still a sneaky greedy taffer.
FM's are non-cannon, btw.
all on 28/5/2007 at 18:42
non-cannon?
imperialreign on 28/5/2007 at 22:40
I'd have to say, apperance wise - I think the TDS Garrett was a bit of a de-evolution - his outfit was more appropriate in T1/T2; but, I think by the time he loses his eye in TDP it's hard to really notice any change in attitude
T-Smith on 29/5/2007 at 00:04
I think did evolve during the course of the series. He started off as an arrogant, selfish bastard who none the less seemed to have some degree of honour (at least, in regards to certain people). By the end of the Dark Project he's clearly been shaken up a bit, though he continues to put up the same, "I don't give a shit, everything's about me." attitude.
Thief 2 he seems to start off pretty much the same, though perhaps just slightly more open to what The Keepers have to say - so long as it benefits him. As the game goes on he starts working against The Mechanists, seemingly to save his own ass. But as the Metal Age continues, it seems he's just as interested in saving The City (whether because he's in it, it's good for business, or it's home). By the end he shows outright concern for Viktoria, and his final conversation with Artemus shows he's willing to listen to what the Keepers have to offer, and it seems not just for himself.
By Deadly Shadows he seems to have really begun to accept his role in the grand plan of things. He actively works to help the Keepers, even when they're against him, going out of his way to help solve the prophecies and find the Brethren and Betrayer (which, ironically, ends up being him just as much as it was Gamall). He seems to show some level of concern or trust with Artemus that he doesn't with anyone else (I've always been of the opinion that it was Artemus who first found and trained Garrett, which seems to be hinted at by the ring in the opening cinema of TDP and the fact that in DS Artemus is the only one mentioned to have such a ring, possibly a reference). When Gamall is finally revealed Garrett risks life and limb to stop her at any cost, showing he's fully accepted his place.
The ending of the game is the real kicker. At the very end, he comes to understand he's a true Keeper (even moreso than the actual group) and accepts that. In the end it seems Garrett isn't quite as heartless as he was at the beginning of The Dark Project. He's still arrogant for sure. Selfish? No doubt. And he can be quite a bastard. But it seems through the series he develops a genuine care for The City and his place in it.
Garrison64 on 30/5/2007 at 03:49
I'd have to agree with T-Smith. I don't think Garrett remained the selfish bastard he started out to be even though at the very start I always felt he had a good heart. He sure did go way out of his way to rescue his fence from Prison even though he could have easily made it without the money that was owed him. To me he cared about people but would never admit it for fear of tarnishing his rep. The money was just an excuse to go rescue his friend from a terrible existance. By the end of the the story he seemed to have accepted his role in the greater scheme of things and I think he realized he was there for a larger purpose than just thieving. Some people think the last cut scene was out of character for him and just something tossed in there for the long time fans but I think it fit rather nicely. Quite often a person's life goes full circle like that. They start out the rebel and then end up right were they swore they'd never be. Fate or whatever just makes it happen. I'm not even sure Garrett would have kept on thieving at that point. We already knew he was going to retire from it at some point from a comment he made in T1 when Constantine promised to pay him a lot of money for the eye. It's really hard to say for sure but it would have been nice to know more of the story and what happened to Garrett later in life.
Meisterdieb on 2/6/2007 at 15:08
I very much liked the charcter development of Garret, though it may have felt a little rushed. And the end of TDS was great. The story arc truly coming full circle and Garret finally having to realize he cannot dodge fate and to accept and maybe understand that.
The last scene might have been a bit of a cliche but-hey- so is Garret being portrayed as the jaded lone wolf.
Vigil on 2/6/2007 at 15:15
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Vogelfrei on 2/6/2007 at 17:54
Finally. <3
I love how the eye actually visualizes his development in the end. (That might have to do with my kinda unhealthy adoration for that stone, but whatever.) When in Dark Project it merely uses Garrett as a toy, though sensing he could be important later - and not being disappointed -, in the third part it isn't as uncooperative. Althoug still rather boldfaced. It absolutely had to be the last artefact placed and to mark him as the One Keeper.
Still wondering what happens to it ... but different question. Ah.
