Hamadriyad on 29/8/2009 at 09:22

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In Cragscleft:
Find your lucky hand of glory

In the Haunted Cathedral:
Leave Coins on the Watchman's Grave for luck.

So, Garrett has some supersititions? I just wonder. :)

Hamadriyad on 29/8/2009 at 10:24

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Yes.
And thanks for the link. Good post as always. Also thread is interesting. I should read all posts. :)

Jarvis on 29/8/2009 at 19:39

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I don't know that Garrett is really superstitious. Consider this, he pretty much acknowledges the Builder in his statement about going down in the Bonehoard. He says something like "I wonder where a heretic like me can get some holy water".

If Garrett were athiestic to religion, magic, and the supernatural then he wouldn't acknowledge such things. But he *has* to acknowledge them, because they exist in a very tangible form and he sees that such things work. It's functionality.

Yet despite a knowledge that the "supernatural" and "unknowable" exists on some level, Garrett is still a heretic. He regularly turns his back on prophecy, ignores the builder, defies and kills a demi-god, and any other blasphemy that happens to suit his end. He interacts with the supernatural almost daily, but still disregards it. Again, mostly in the name of functionality. Even with Keeper prophecies... he *wants* them to be false, but despite his feelings they apparently end up true anyway. So being pragmatic as ever, he figures he'll listen in just enough to suit his own ends.

I see him as interacting with superstition in much the same way. After all, if he really valued that Hand of Glory then he wouldn't have loaned it out. Maybe he keeps it around to help manipulate superstitious people like Isaac. He figured he'd pick it back up while he was in Cragscleft.

As for the Watcher's statue, again it's a thing of convenience for him. He's in the area, so why not? A truly superstitious personality would feel compelled to drop a coin in there habitually. Garrett just drops a coin in it because it's there. How many of you still blow out candles in your birthday cakes? How many of you still put candles in the cakes of the children in your families? It's just something you do with out too much thought. But I doubt you really invest yourselves in it, or really expect the wishes to comes true.

I think Garrett is the same way. If it were up to him, there would be no Hand Brotherhood, or Builder, or undead, or Trickster, or Keeper Glyphs, or Watcher, or whatever. But he lives in a world where he's surrounded by such things. So he interacts with them on a superficial level, again, for his own ends.

R Soul on 29/8/2009 at 22:22

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It would have made more sense if the goal had been to go there and steal the coins that previous thieves had left there.

The hand would have been a great tool for practical jokes. When Garrett shook hands with Constantine, imagine if he'd just had the lucky hand sticking out of his sleeve. He could have let go and shouted "Aargh my hand's come off". The Trickster would have really appreciated that.

jtr7 on 29/8/2009 at 22:40

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After these two examples, we never see him dabble in good luck/bad luck rituals/items again. Whatever superstition he had (whatever it really amounted to) was purged through his experiences. A holdover from his childhood on the streets, perhaps, left behind through his character arc. When I blow the candles out, I don't make a wish, I just hope I don't send spittle flying. I don't light candles for my own cake, nor blow them out if no one's there to witness it or expect it of me.


Sorry. I can't believe there's any compelling light reason for Garrett to give a damn about the hand of glory, let alone seek it while in Cragscleft, and take it from a dead body that means less to him.


R Soul: Hahaha! :thumb: