jtr7 on 14/11/2009 at 09:45
Heh. She'd never met him before. But before long she started flirting with him. :cheeky: Her greeting:
"Well, looky looky. You must be Garrett. Somehow...I expected somebody...taller. Doesn't matter...I'm Black Market Bertha. Glad to meet you. Perry said to expect ya. Said you'd have an Opal for me. I'm sure we can do business. I got the best stonecutters in the City waiting to cut it up, as a matter of fact."
And then there's poor Marla with the crush. Her greeting:
"Garrett! I can't believe it's you! In my store! Let me know if you need help finding anything. I'm Marla. Marla Madison? Used to be a thief myself, maybe you heard of me, or...but...oh, oh, you probably just want to shop."
And then there's cold Dahlia's greeting:
"Who's that? Let me get a look at you. You must be that fella Garrett. Fancy yourself a famous thief, I hear, but that don't impress me. Anyway, famous or no, ol' Dahlia will take care of you. If you've got artwork to sell, this is the place. But no funny business, got it?"
And then there's the kind and level-headed fortune-teller Carmen's greeting:
"Welcome, welcome. Step into my store. I call it Carmen's Place...because that's me, I'm Carmen. The Hammerites think I sell lady's undergarments or something. I don't know where they got that impression. But...it keeps them away. So, everybody's happy, yeah?"
Garrett and the ladies...
Here's a rough list I'd started. Garrett's friends, acquaintances, associates, helpful and somewhat helpful individuals, established or begun:
Basso & Jenivere and Basso's sister, Artemus & Keeper Nate, Carmen Cantata, Sangar, Farkus, Rudyard, Zhan, Manny Jabrielle, Cutty, Dikket, Tundis, Issyt the Beggar, possibly Felix, the person in the brieifng buying the Horn of Quintus off Garrett, Viktoria, Downwinders, Giry, Brothers Murus & Renault, Hammerites, Inspector Drept, Lauryl, Sammy, Lotus, Heartless Perry, Black Market Bertha, Thomas, Dahlia, Marla Madison, Ramien, Sam Swarthy, Dyan, Widow Moira.
Break from Cragscleft Prison, Briefing: "An associate of mine was confined there, and has provided me with a map."
Break from Cragscleft Prison, Store item, M3HolyWaterTip: "A former prisoner of Cragscleft says he has info about \ the haunted mines. Cost:100"
Break from Cragscleft Prison, M3cellblocktip, which reads: "According to Dikket, a 'heretic' who was recently let out of Cragscleft, Cutty's being held in cell block four."
The Thieves' Guild, briefing: "I have a rough map of the complex I got from...'sources' from the inside. ... Have to be careful—the Downwinder's know me all too well."
The Haunted Cathedral, Store item, M7TIP2: "An acquaintance is willing to sell you some pages from a \ journal that he claims belonged to a long-ago fighter of the undead. \ Cost: 200"
The Mage Towers, briefing: "I bribed some servants to get me a map of the common grounds..."
Lost City , Store item, M9TIP2: "An acquaintance [Sangar] will sell you a commission he has to \ pick up some antiquities which you may be able to find around the Lost \ City. Cost:150"
Song of the Caverns, briefing: "An informant of mine, Giry, made a home for himself in these caverns after he lost his job tending the ticket counter of a nearby opera house."
The Maw of Chaos, Store item, M14TIP2: "One of the Hammerites is willing to offer you some \ information he found, but insists that you pay for it - something \ about not sullying his soul by helping thieves. Cost:100"
Shipping... and Receiving, M02TIP--Whomever had written it and put it up for sale.
Framed, briefing: "...my visitor said the job was too sensitive to go through the usual channels. He claimed that an old acquaintance of mine told him where to find me. I was about to ask him who our mutual friend was, when he managed to... distract me."
Framed, , M04TIP1--Whomever had written it and put it up for sale.
Blackmail, , M09TIP: "I hear the foundation under the porch of Truart Estate has a large crack which you should be able to crawl under. Check behind the bushes for it. There must be an easy way into the mansion under there. \ -Tundis"
First City Bank & Trust, Store item, M07B12: "G - \ Tried me a creak at First City B&T come two years back. More than I \ was skopped out for, tell you that, not my best o jobs. Had me a left \ little finger afore that, for one. Trouble be, the place spents a \ full purse on the damned TILE floors. Couldn't take a step back nor \ fort, should I set an echo up to the roof. Had me a dram more o \ nerve, mights have gone slow-feet enough and get by, or wait \ patientlike till the thugmen be past. But no, had me to go and raise \ a noise on that tile and out they jump. No worry for you, mate, \ all your talents. But for me, well, get me a coin and prick your \ ears samewise, seems a fair trade. \ -Zhan"
Life of the Party, Store item, M11B14: "A local merchant [Rudyard] may not have the items you need, \ but he does know where you can obtain them. Cost: 200"
Life of the Party, Store item, M11B15, which reads: "G, \ Got some news for ya. A guy named Valencia just entered Dayport, and he's only there for a couple of days. He's some kinda diamond exporter...deals with rough stones. Well, while he's in town, he's storing a pouch of uncut diamonds at the Dayport Trader's Bank. Security there is supposed to be pretty loose -- hell, the place is on the top floor of one of them marble buildings, so they must not expect any company, if you know what I mean. Should be fairly straightforward, if you take the 'thieves' highway.'"
Precious Cargo Objectives: "A smuggler friend has commissioned you with finding and stealing the man's antique navigation globe."
Lica Samadau on 15/11/2009 at 11:51
Great list, jtr7.
Garrett has had many associates during his "career", but we never know much about them because he usually keeps them at an arm's length. He's not the sort of person to make friends, at least not in the social sense.
Jah on 16/11/2009 at 09:30
Quote Posted by jtr7
TDS utterly dropped all but two of Garrett's associates (new ones at that--Heartless Perry, and an unnamed one), after the dozen or so mentioned before. He knew none of the others, or at least, no one knew him or who he'd heard of. In the older titles, he had some very amicable relationships with other thieves and thiefspawns, guys that would help him out without asking anything in return that we ever saw. And yeah, there was Sammy in TMA's
Ambush that sold him out.
Then again, were there any other associates in T1 besides Basso who were mentioned in T2 (apart from the non-thieving ones like Viktoria or Artemus)? It seems like Garrett's fences and colleagues in all three games were very minor characters and probably not very close to Garrett on a personal level.
Perhaps another reason why most of them are never heard of again is that they got either killed or caught. I can easily imagine Truart significantly thinning the ranks of the City's underworld during his brief reign, so it makes sense that many of the fences in TDS would be newcomers.
jtr7 on 16/11/2009 at 09:32
By "utterly dropped" I meant there was no sense of any previous history.
Jah on 16/11/2009 at 09:51
As opposed to the previous history of one recurring character in T2?
jtr7 on 16/11/2009 at 11:04
(Sigh)
I said a SENSE of...
There's an implied history between Sangar and Garrett, for example. That we don't witness it first-hand is entirely beside the point. There's nothing cryptic going in here.
Jah on 16/11/2009 at 11:22
By the same token, can't you also say that there is implied history between Garrett and Heartless Perry, who obviously knew each other before their first meeting in TDS?
In terms of Garrett's associates, I just don't see a huge difference between T1->T2 and T2->T3, is all I'm saying.