theBlackman on 4/12/2007 at 18:57
And we all forgot the obvious one. Garrett has a bow. A bow needs a string. So he would have replacement bowstrings, or the means to quickly make one.
Beleg Cúthalion on 4/12/2007 at 21:32
You can't make a bowstring along the way, I think. Plus, I think even if he had one, it would not be close to the rather sharp instruments he needs for breaking into somewhere. Additionally bows usually don't look too well when the string rips. And when you're just pulling them, it gets really nasty, I guess.
Quote Posted by Solabusca
Probably not, actually - with all the tools in it, it's a bit too bulky, and G doesn't want the key clunking into the toolkit.
We don't see if the part of the roll which covers the rest is not equipped with something. Anyway, won't matter at all...
theBlackman on 4/12/2007 at 22:17
The strings you see are held in a pocket. The tools would not be a danger.
As for making a string, that's also easy to do if you know your tools and the bow.
You know the length you need *shorter than the bow* put two pegs in the ground, nails in a wall, and loop your strands until you have enough. Wrap the nock end, serve *a term you can look up* the middle where the nock is put. Slip it off the pegs and put it on the bow. Can be done in about 10 minutes or less by a pro.
On the other hand, archers always carried two or more made up for use. If the strings got damp, they would change to a new dry one that they kept protected. If one broke, they whipped out a spare and went back to work.
The above, by the way, is a historical fact.
A magnified close of of the "Wedge" or knife in the pouch shows it to be a flint knife. Notice the "chipped" surface where it was faceted while being made. The handle could be any material. Most likely wood. Blow it up, brighten the "gamma" and take a good look. It is stone or flint.
Elentari on 5/12/2007 at 06:20
I would think that extra bowstrings would actually be kept in the quiver. Either a pocket on the outside or an inside pocket. Most likely they would already be prepared as well so if the one already on was discovered to be fraying - the new ones would be at hand and ready to use. I don't see why it would be kept in the toolkit with the burglary tools.
I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem logical to have your tools spread out like that.
Beleg Cúthalion on 5/12/2007 at 09:34
I agree on the last, but if we also try to stay historical here, we have to remember that pockets in the middle ages were merely belt pouches or separate bags because no one had really invented the trouser pockets yet. That's why I think Garrett would really be owned if we took this element seriously.
About the flint knife/spattle; I also noticed that and left aside that it could still be a usual material for making things like that (which I don't know right now), he could in fact use it for making fire. I just haven't found the English word right now, but I mean he would need (
http://www.arte-facts.de/specials4.htm) these. I always thought that there was something about the fire arrows that had always been dropped. :p
theBlackman on 5/12/2007 at 10:40
Quote Posted by Elentari
I would think that extra bowstrings would actually be kept in the quiver. Either a pocket on the outside or an inside pocket. Most likely they would already be prepared as well so if the one already on was discovered to be fraying - the new ones would be at hand and ready to use. I don't see why it would be kept in the toolkit with the burglary tools.
I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem logical to have your tools spread out like that.
Keeping tools in a rolled wrap was and is common practice. A leather panel with "pockets" and straps to hold items was the "toolbox" of the period for many. The "Tool Chest" made by the apprentice to demonstrate his skills was the culmination of his apprecticeship. Meantime he would carry tools in a leather roll.
For a thief, a leather roll such as is depicted (in both) is both practical and useful. It is noiseless. You can carry it hidden under your shirt, yet have a selection of tools available. You are talking about a strip of leather about 10 inches wide and maybe 12 long. Rolled up it would be about the diameter of a closet pole (less than 1-1/2 in diameter), Such could carry everything you see in the sketches. You unroll it and take your choice.
As for the bowstrings, a quiver is not the best choice. They needed to be kept dry. They were mostly kept wrapped in oilskin or oiled parchment, and on the body inside a jerkin or shirt, or possibly a pouch on the belt.
As was mentioned, pockets as we know them, were not. Small wallets and leather bags were the norm. Mostly leather bags hanging from the belt or kept inside your shirt. The term
"Cutpurse", means a person who cuts the strings holding your purse (which was a pouch or bag) to your belt.
Goldmoon Dawn on 6/12/2007 at 03:20
Quote Posted by jtr7
Yeah. I seem to remember something about RPG players among the devs. It wouldn't surprise me at all.:sly:
It always tickles me when I get to be the one who reminds us all that Looking Glass Studios first two games were in fact, RPGs.
:)
jtr7 on 6/12/2007 at 03:34
Sadly, I've never played any LGS or Blue Sky games outside of Thief.:(
