demagogue on 15/8/2015 at 17:27
The law at issue, equal protection & due process, are about protecting people, giving them equal treatment, and opening up their freedom.
Polygamy by its nature places some spouses in an inferior position to others, and runs roughshod over the full consent of every party in a marriage. So it not only doesn't follow the logic of equal protection and due process, but it actually raises equal protection and due process red flags all over ... such that, if it were already legal, there'd be a good case to stop the practice on equal protection and due process grounds, the same grounds that made gay marriage legal.
Tony_Tarantula on 15/8/2015 at 21:56
Quote Posted by demagogue
Polygamy by its nature places some spouses in an inferior position to others, and runs roughshod over the full consent of every party in a marriage. So it not only doesn't follow the logic of equal protection and due process, but it actually raises equal protection and due process red flags all over ... such that, if it were already legal, there'd be a good case to stop the practice on equal protection and due process grounds, the same grounds that made gay marriage legal.
No, it doesn't. I know some people who are in unofficial polygamous relationships who entered into them of their own free will already knowing that there were other parties int he marriage....ergo there was full consent.
Keep in mind that you're also using logic very similar to that used to ban gay marriage in the first place: sweeping generalizations without any basis in detailed analysis. Granted there are strong negative effects for society as a whole that correlate with acceptance of polygamy, but it's unreasonable to say that ALL polygamous marriages have that effect. Furthermore equality within interpersonal relationships is not the purview of the judicial system.
A logically equivalent argument would be to say that since the various children in a family will inevitably be in superior or inferior positions to each other, that having more than one child should be declared illegal.
Furthermore the grounds that "made gay marriage legal" aren't the same ones. You're quoting principles without actually having read the text of the case: the court decided that since a romantic commitment and a division of domestic responsibilities exist in a gay relationship that denying them marriage licenses is a violation of equal rights under the law. You can't logically argue that argument does not also apply to polygamous relationships.
Fafhrd on 15/8/2015 at 23:16
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
and there's a very real glass ceiling for conservatives in business.
HAHAHAHAHAHA. You seriously don't live in the real world, do you?
faetal on 19/8/2015 at 13:36
What do you mean? Everyone knows that the higher echelons of the oligarchy are dominated by liberals.
