smithpd on 5/6/2006 at 03:02

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For all you JIS fans, here is an update to his mission Hammer & Garrett.

(http://thiefmissions.com/info.cgi?m=HammerGarrett)

If you like route finding puzzles, this one is for you. :) Below are some comments on the mission. Have fun. :)

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Hammer & Garrett FINAL
file: hg_final_a.zip
Thief Gold

Notes by Peter Smith (smithpd at TTLG)

This is the final version of Hammer and Garrett for Thief Gold by JIS. If you are a JIS fan, as I am, you will enjoy this one.

This is a tricky mission with lots of nice atmosphere and variety. There is only one illegible objective, which could mean "get to the end." Exploration and false leads are ends in themselves. Finding new territory is the main problem to solve. You have solved it when you have gone everywhere.

H & G is like elevator in its design principles -- a large map with lots of exploration to do. It is not quite so difficult or scary as elevator. There seem to be fewer keys and switches, but there are enough of these to keep you occupied. Like elevator, there are some semi-secret ways to get between sections of the mission that can have you hunting for quite a while. If you make it through without hints you will be a more persistent player than I am.

I think the mission would be improved by adding more loot and some additional objectives. You will know you are getting warm if you can steal these two objects:
the eye
the keeper's medallion

smithpd on 6/6/2006 at 03:58

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Diznavis,

The talisman holder is the most difficult puzzle of the mission, IMO. It is a lock that needs a special key called the Orz key to open it. That special key is found in a secret passage. The entrance to the secret passage is opened using[SPOILER]the Hammer's key on a lock found under a statue.[/SPOILER]The entrance is located behind a banner. Post back if you need more direct hints of where these things are. :)

As for the elevator door, that cannot be opened. One of several blind alleys.

smithpd on 7/6/2006 at 01:25

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Yes, I was 50 short of loot myself. OK, you loot hounds, is it there or not? :)

Dafydd on 8/6/2006 at 01:08

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I bypassed the medallion the brings the haunts for the moment; instead, I went and got the sword.

[spoiler]I escaped the fire elementals, got back, went through the new door, flipped a switch, entered a room that caused burricks to appear, dropped down a long hole into some water, eventually got to where there was a really tough haunt, killed him and the ghost and the two zombies beyond, got the eye, then went through the other corridor, climbed a ladder, and eventually found myself in a room just behind a door from a room off the corridor that has the old-fashioned camera/watcher.[/spoiler]

I know where I am; but I can't get the door open. There is a parchment in there which I cannot frob (that's true of every parchment I've found so far: not frobbable, at least for me). If that's supposed to open the door, then I don't know what to do.

I can't go back the way I came, because I dropped down a long hole to get here.

How do I get that door open? Or is there another way out from here? And should I be able to frob those readables?

Thanks,

Dafydd

smithpd on 8/6/2006 at 04:31

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Dafydd,

Your description is a little confusing to me, especially the part about "the other corridor, climbed a ladder." If I understand where you are, I don't think there is a ladder there. Regardless, you must first find this place:

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The way out of this area is:[SPOILER]Stand on the parchment and look up.[/SPOILER]:)

None of the parchments can be frobbed. Apparently JIS got some negative feedback at some point about providing only Japanese texts. He had no way to translate them, so he eliminated all texts. There is no Books folder. Too bad, because someone here could have translated them.

Edit: UliB beat me to it. More detail may help someone.