Phatose on 8/2/2015 at 06:10
Quote Posted by GodzillaX8
I'm going to make my own game, called HatRed. It'll be about a man who just wants to buy a red hat, but he can't decide which one to get.
Just don't try to publish on Steam. Valve is quite protective about their Hat-based game niche.
gkkiller on 8/2/2015 at 07:11
Quote Posted by Manwe
Certainly not because of the incredible lobbying power of the LGBT community. No, no such things as lobbys right?
By your own admission, transsexuals are invisible in France. What lobbying power would they have?
Manwe on 8/2/2015 at 10:56
Quote Posted by faetal
This Manwe chap is really something :)
You're welcome, I aim to please. It's good to know America is going down the shitter with a smile on its face.
Quote Posted by gkkiller
By your own admission, transsexuals are invisible in France. What lobbying power would they have?
You don't seem to understand how lobbys work. Do a google search for Pierre Bergé. Gay activist, millionnaire, in favor of "women renting their womb as a factory worker rents his arms" (his exact words), owns half the press. Someone like that has no lobbying power whatsoever, right?
froghawk on 8/2/2015 at 14:26
Of all the extremely powerful and dangerous political lobbies you could choose to get mad about, you pick the trans movement? Really?
Muzman on 8/2/2015 at 18:00
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
What concerns me though, is that the tables have turned. Dictating puritanical standards of behavior, speech codes, trying to regulate sexual behavior, etc, was previously the domain of the far right.
Now that the left has embraced wholesale the censorship of behavior who is left to stand on the side of civil liberties?
That's whats different this time.
No. Not true at all. All the arguments were the same, including this one. It's the original reactionary neo-con position. And further too; these feminists and their desire to disrupt and silence show the left's true colours as crypto Stalinists who wish only authoritarian control, whether they realise it or not. All this getting men not to rape and people to not say mean things is going to bring the entire Western Liberalism project unglued.
Exactly the same in every facet + twitter et al making the regularity of combative exchanges much higher. The agitation, the backlash, the accusations of tyrannical thinking, the concepts and arguments: it's all the same. The very concept of the 'PC Mafia' and 'It's political correctness gone mad!' comes from the late 80s and early 90s. Bush snr's government leapt upon this as a convenient saw to oppose. Virtually the moment the Soviet Union collapses they come out with a new sort of red scare about the intelligensia in the academic world undermining what it means to be American ...by arguing that maybe cross cultural literature should be considered equally to the classic cannon and other terrifying notions. And good ol' fashioned populism and anti-intellectualism gets a new lease on life, for a while.
All those comedy routines about "people aren't dwarves or midgets anymore, they're 'height challenged'" come from around then. "Not Disabled. Differently Abled!", "Not Old! Chronologically Enhanced!". Oh so many waggish op-eds. Some of it was true. But people remember the satire better than the reality. The PC mafia was trying to rename everything to be nicer because they place excessive weight on the power in language. Yes, they do sometimes. But nobody renames things for their massaging effect more than Government, the military, corporations and advertising. Nobody finds that as funny for some reason. Well meaning bleeding heart social workers are easier targets I suppose.
In case you can't guess I think it's a lot of overblown nonsense. Then and now. One which we still have to hear about/be needlessly distracted by to this day as conservatives everywhere pull out this familiar stick to beat the left with whenever it suits. Well played I suppose, from a culture war perspective. And now, to flip the take of that earlier article, a whole new generation of neocons and anti-feminists has learned all these tricks enough to pick up the mantle and carry on.
The thing is, the terrible SJWs are mostly right, if people would bother to examine what's being asked for most of the time. What they say and what they want isn't all that interesting usually. So you met some angry feminist or other -young, brash, passionate, thought they knew more than they do- who said extreme things and called you names or terms you didn't like. Same as it ever was (if and when it bubbled up). This hand wringing that goes on makes people look like a lot of fussy aunts (sexism and agism double whammy).
TTK12G3 on 8/2/2015 at 23:08
Quote Posted by DaBeast
But this is the internet, if people can't use any excuse to force their disposition onto others (and criticise them when they don't accept it with a thank you) here, then where else?
I am still not sure at what point an argument about a game about shooting random dudes turned into a debate about trans-gender rights.
DaBeast on 8/2/2015 at 23:57
Quote Posted by TTK12G3
I am still not sure at what point an argument about a game about shooting random dudes turned into a debate about trans-gender rights.
Well, what I saw was someone talked about censorship, then someone else saw an excuse to push their SJW beliefs which attracted others to push their contrary beliefs. Then the shit flinging commenced.
Muzman on 9/2/2015 at 00:55
Seems like a fairly measured back and forth about representations of violence and good taste etc until Manwe lost his damn mind and went after anyone feeling slightly queazy about the game, anyone criticising games content at all and then the entire United States.
But maybe that's just me.
It's kind of an interesting thread all round though.
froghawk on 9/2/2015 at 01:57
Quote Posted by Muzman
Seems like a fairly measured back and forth about representations of violence and good taste etc until Manwe lost his damn mind and went after anyone feeling slightly queazy about the game, anyone criticising games content at all and then the entire United States.
But maybe that's just me.
Not just you - that's exactly what happened.
Starker on 9/2/2015 at 03:17
Quote Posted by Muzman
But nobody renames things for their massaging effect more than Government, the military, corporations and advertising. Nobody finds that as funny for some reason.
I actually found it mildly amusing when Obama referred to assassinations as "targeted killing". And "enhanced interrogation" was at least worth a small chuckle. And or course there are the old classics, such as soft ordnance
napalm, sunshine units
radiation, and infantry lethality system
assault rifle.
Maybe that's just because I have done extensive research on euphemisms, though.