Sulphur on 12/2/2015 at 16:37
Hang on, I need to google 'enlightenment'. Consequences of that fast and loose life I've lived.
Hrm. Apparently, according to the internet, I may need drugs for this conversation to continue. But I may not have any drugs around. What a pickle!
Got any spare whippet?
faetal on 12/2/2015 at 16:51
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
First off, you're basing your argument entirely on conjencture. It's not a useful argument because we have no way of knowing either way. Any attempt to compare countries that disparate is an apples to oranges comparison. And no "reported rapes" isn't perfect but it's the best metric we have to go off of.
The reason why that data is significant is because the countries with the highest reported incidents of rape are the most liberal societies even by first world standards. Those statistics don't even take into account the high number of false rape allegations (41% in metro areas, about 50% on campus) in the United States, the most religiously conservative first world country.
So you don't think that reported rapes in places where the legal stance is that rape victim = adulterer and the sentence is death might not swing the rate of report to an extent which outweighs statistical significance? If not, I can lend you some text books about how data analysis works. It's not that the rates of report are "a little different" it's that they're
vastly different. I'll say it again, dial back your confidence in your analysis of rape prevalence, because you don't know what you think you know. Have the humility to be less sure of yourself.
I'm not just yanking your chain - here's what the data landscape looks like to me: actual prevalence of rape (that is, sex without consent) is massively offset against the number of rape cases per capita. Factors will include:
1) Actual amount of men who rape women
2) Whether or not men raping women is illegal (think about how you'd record it if it's not)
3) How rape victims are treated culturally if they come forward about rape
4) Public perception of how likely it is that reporting rape will result in prosecution
5) Other
I'd say the potential for confounding stats is way too high to be confident. That's my opinion as someone whose career involves continual data analysis and formulation of hypotheses to explain causality. Admittedly, my field isn't sociology, criminology or law; but stats is stats.
gkkiller on 13/2/2015 at 06:48
Quote Posted by Tony_Tarantula
The question that pops into my mind is wondering what kind of person would get pleasure from playing a game like that. As far as the gameplay it sounds like it's indistinguishable from going on a rampage in GTA....which I never found particularly fun. The fun part was the police chases. There were a few times I'd deliberately trigger one of those by punching a cop and trying to escape the ensuing shitstorm.
"I would not find this fun, therefore no one should find this fun."
demagogue on 13/2/2015 at 07:26
I'm checking an amnesty affidavit right now of a woman who was beaten and raped throughout her entire marriage by her husband in Saudi Arabia. Do you want to know what will happen to her if she deigns to report a single instance as rape, or even considers divorce? She'll be killed first of all, no debate there, likely by her own family. She's already gotten the unambiguous threats. Pretty much every country in an unbroken line from Morocco to Thailand has a similar problem.
Rapes get significantly more reported in countries post-sexual revolutions; that much is true, sure.
EvaUnit02 on 31/5/2015 at 11:52
It looks like a solidly-built twin stick shooter. Would I buy and play this over say Dead Nation? Probably not.
If you want to listen to TB addressing the "controversy" surrounding the game then skip to 10 mins in.
[video=youtube;iWKSopTFf2U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWKSopTFf2U[/video]
PigLick on 31/5/2015 at 12:39
Quote Posted by demagogue
I'm checking an amnesty affidavit right now of a woman who was beaten and raped throughout her entire marriage by her husband in Saudi Arabia. Do you want to know what will happen to her if she deigns to report a single instance as rape, or even considers divorce? She'll be killed first of all, no debate there, likely by her own family. She's already gotten the unambiguous threats. Pretty much every country in an unbroken line from Morocco to Thailand has a similar problem.
Rapes get significantly more reported in countries post-sexual revolutions; that much is true, sure.
holy crap that is depressing and horrifying. DO you feel like you can make a difference?
DaBeast on 3/6/2015 at 01:29
Nowhere near as bad as the media made it out to be. It's roughly as violent as a GTA killspree with some angsty goth visuals and lame dialogue.
Optimisation is pretty much non-existent, choppy, stuttery performance on a R6870 crossfire.
It's really kind of bland and absolutely doesn't deserve the AO rating. Heck, some of the scenes in The Walking Dead games are much more gruesome and shocking.
Some of the destructible objects are nice, but nothing special.
Muzman on 3/6/2015 at 05:09
I think the proper formulation is "No where near as bad as the people who made the game wanted you to think" (and nowhere near as good in optimisation terms)
DaBeast on 3/6/2015 at 05:35
Possibly, from what I've read of the developer's interviews, they've stated that the media outcry has always been blown well out of proportion.
If I or anyone else was involved in a small studio/startup development team, I'd milk every bit of publicity too. So I can't really blame them, but I don't think they were as bad as some other developers in the past.
