Biohazard on 24/2/2009 at 22:31
Hey Taffers,
As you all know our Thief Gen FAQ has become quite outdated. There are many new issues and fixes out there that probably constitute FAQ status (AKA thread after thread discussing the same issue). I need your help in compiling a list of issues and solutions that need to be added to the FAQ or any new updates to the existing FAQ. If you have something that you feel should be included, please post it in this thread. To help save me time, I would ask that you use proper spelling, grammar, and clear and concise language. Please try to conform your post to the format of the current FAQ (include a title with the question and a paragraph block with the answer). Also remember that we will not allow links to cracked executable files as per forum regulations.
Thanks,
Bio
DJ Riff on 25/2/2009 at 11:09
==Thief 2==When I try to install Thief 1-2 nothing happens!Restart Windows in Safe Mode then run SETUP.EXE -LGNTFORCE as usual.
If that fails, you can install Thief (
http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1568039#post1568039) Manually
Are there any Vista-specific issues?Do not install the game in any system-protected folder such as Program Files. Create a folder for which you have full read/write access. Sometimes it is necessary to run the game with administrator privileges.
==Thief 3==I can't use lockpicks and ladders! The game freezes until I hit Esc / Jump / Use keyTurn on V-Sync both in driver settings (for both t3.exe and t3main.exe) and in game settings.
The game acts like some button is always pressed! (usually "Up" or "Down" key). I'm not using any gamepad, but I have a USB Gaming Keyboard.Go into Device Manager and look under Human Interface Devices for two or more entries named USB Interface Device. What you want to do is double-click on each USB Interface Device entry; then look on the Properties tab and make sure that it says USB Gaming Keyboard next to Location.
After you’ve located the right entries, right-click on them (and only them) and select Disable from the pop-out menu, answering Yes to any prompts. One of the entries will not have Disable as an option when you right-click on it — that’s the one that obviously should be left as-is.
I want to use a gamepad / joystick but when I try to remap a key the game crashes to desktop!Make sure that all analog controls of your joystick are centered in neutral position before remapping any keys. It depends on the joystick model if the throttle knob must be moved to center position or full down. On the 'Controls' screen, click to remap "Move Forward" key. If it immediately changes to 'Joy Z axis', that means Z axis is not centered and the game will crash if you try to remap any other key.
Where are my Saves?They are generally in
My Documents\Thief - Deadly Shadows\Savegame folder. You can change the folder by modifying
SaveGamePath registry key in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Ion Storm\Thief - Deadly ShadowsIf you have problems with saves in Vista, change the path to some non-system folder with full read/write access rights.
How to move Saves from one computer to another?Saves are packed in folders that are named as some senseless letter-digit combination, and it is sometimes difficult to decide which of them you actually need. As Saves entries in the game are sorted by date, simply sort the folders in file manager by date and count them. Do not copy 'Current Save' folder, as it is a temporary save and won't work on another computer. When you copy a foreign save to your game, delete the file
Saveindex.ion, so that the game would re-scan the save folder for new files.
Nameless Voice on 25/2/2009 at 11:23
All the questions should be sorted into categories and subcategories - the current long list is a mess.
Biohazard on 25/2/2009 at 15:25
Agreed. I will be giving the FAQ a face lift as well as an update.
Cliftor on 25/2/2009 at 15:32
Based on my recent personal experiences, including using that optimization thread voodoo linked to, I'd recommend a clear and concise summary of those steps, and the addition of the widescreen step.
On of the major issues with following that thread was that stuff was happening on screen that wasn't happening in the faq, and vice versa. For instance, there were things like "Run it and choose the "optimise Thief" option when prompted during configuration", but there was no optimize Thief option and whatever he was vaguely referring to wasn't readily evident. I'm still not even precisely sure what is supposed to be happening.
Zechs Zero on 25/2/2009 at 23:47
An alternate way of fixing the movies from Thief 2 under Vista, which don't play when accessed externally and even crash the game if played from within:
Start Button -> Run
type:
regsvr32 ir50_32.dll
Disturbation on 26/2/2009 at 11:38
Thief - Deadly Shadows: A friend of mine had this problem, and the solution worked, as it did for others on the Eidos forums. Apparently the game doesn't attempt to create the files/folders necessary for saving until after you have started a game, but fails to create them on Vista. Not sure if the first step is necessary.
Help, I'm on Vista and the game launches and loads, but soon crashes or gives me a black screen!1) Start with a completely fresh installation of the game. This will ensure that all files in the System folder are present and haven't been removed previously. Run the v1.1 Patch straight after installing as well.
2) Create a new folder for save games, preferably one can be accessed by all Users (eg. C:/SavedGames/Thief - Deadly Shadows).
3) Go to Start -> Run -> regedit
4) Navigate to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Ion Storm\Thief - Deadly Shadows
5) Right-click SaveGamePath and click Modify...
6) Change this value to the path of the save game folder created earlier (eg. C:/SavedGames/Thief - Deadly Shadows).
7) Run the game
(thanks to (
http://forums.eidosgames.com/showpost.php?p=740142&postcount=5) Kingtriad at the Eidos forums)
Kaleid on 26/2/2009 at 13:10
Alternative way of fixing game locking due to more than one CPU (or hypertransport?)
To fix it for Thief 2:
modify "Target" in your shortcut
C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 thief2.exe
to dedicate the first CPU core to the game (or "/affinity 2" for the second, and so on)
For Thief Gold:
C:\Windows\System32\cmd.exe /C start /affinity 1 thief.exe
Should work for Thief 1, Gold, Thief 2 and System Shock 2. I've only tried in Vista64. I'm not sure if it works with XP.
Feel free to add to the FAQ.
sNeaksieGarrett on 26/2/2009 at 20:53
Awesome thread. And yay, an FAQ update!:thumb:
I would suggest adding DDFIX information, or at least having a link to the thread bikerdude started in the FAQ.
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Q: I really wish I had scroll wheel for inventory items in thief 1. Is there a way?A:Yes, there sure is thanks to KoHaN69! Please view the thread below:
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http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1746088)
Q: Are there any fan created patches that improve the graphics or other aspects of thief?A: There are tons and tons of threads, but the one below should help:
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http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=122944)