Sneaksie on 10/1/2017 at 09:39
Hello!
I'm trying to make minor changes to Lost City mission from TDP:
1) Remove the goal about finding the Water Talisman;
2) Remove the Water Talisman from the mission;
3) Maybe remove the item from the pre-mission store that actiates the treasure masks in the mission if you buy it. I don't remember if TDP version had this option or it was added only in TG. If this option existed in TDP, then this is not neccessary.
The reason is simple - I'm playing TG but prefer the original version of this mission since it was heavily modified for TG (they added many human enemies which changed the feel too much IMHO).
I assume there is no unstripped version of this mission (miss9.mis) available, at least I haven't found one. There are unstripped TG missions that were available on second TG disc, but I don't know if older TDP unstripped ones were released before this. This means that brush editing (removing a water tunnel where the talisman is located) is impossible. But simpler edits listed above should still be possible, right?
Problem is, even if I just remove the goal 5 using quest_delete command and save the mission, DromEd corrupts it - in the game almost everything becomes blue. I've tried Complete Processing command, but then everything became pitch black.
Is this a known issue with inability to change anything in a stripped mission? Or DromEd installed incorrectly (it complained about inability to open GUI font until I created editor subfolder manually and placed the two files from editor.crf there)? Or I'm overlooking some command that is required prior to saving the mission? Thanks in advance!
Sneaksie on 10/1/2017 at 10:19
Thank you, I know about it. But it reverts the missions completely to TDP variants, while I'm hoping to edit the TDP mission to make it fit in TG story where each talisman is located in its own mission.
Unna Oertdottir on 10/1/2017 at 11:22
-Remove the talisman
-Edit the mission quest data (Editor-->mission quest data):
goal_visible_5
value 0
Save the mis file. The goal isn't visible any more. It's not there for DromEd.
Sneaksie on 10/1/2017 at 11:27
I did this, but after saving almost all surfaces in the mission became blue and don't emit any sound when you walk on them. It's unclear why DromEd corrupts the mission, maybe because something is set up wrong or stripped missions can't be edited at all, even if the change is small.
Unna Oertdottir on 10/1/2017 at 12:10
I don't know what's wrong. Maybe you're trying to run a edited mis file on an older thief version.
Here's the fixed miss9.mis
(
http://www83.zippyshare.com/v/hglne97H/file.html)
- removed the water talisman
- The goal with the water talisman is invisible
- removed the tip from the loadout store
ND 1.23 is required
john9818a on 10/1/2017 at 12:15
IIRC the stripped versions remove editor information so if you remove something it effectively breaks the mission. I'm just curious... if you can play the TDP versions why modify the TG versions?
Sneaksie on 10/1/2017 at 12:37
Quote Posted by Unna Oertdottir
Thank you very much Unna. Will just hiding the goal suffice? I was thinking that I need to remove the goal 5 so the mission will end after completing other goals (since if you just hide it, you'll be left with invisible goal you can't complete, no?).
Oops, I just looked up a TDP walkthrough and it looks like that the tip in loadout store was in TDP already. Sorry, can you make another edit, this time removing the talisman and deleting its goal but not removing the tip in loadout store? By the way, where did you find an unstripped miss9.mis?
Quote Posted by john9818a
IIRC the stripped versions remove editor information so if you remove something it effectively breaks the mission. I'm just curious... if you can play the TDP versions why modify the TG versions?
Maybe it does break them, then finding an unstripped mission would be the only way to go I'm afraid. I want to play the edited (with Water Talisman removed) TDP Lost City mission in TG, not TG Lost City mission that differs from the TDP one much.
Sneaksie on 10/1/2017 at 13:19
Thank you! Will test today for sure :)
