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june gloom on 26/6/2011 at 02:45
new and interesting topics huh
i've got some suggestions
CCCToad on 26/6/2011 at 03:02
Quote Posted by Rug Burn Junky
No actually, you stupid fuck: "Because you're wrong, we can call you wrong."
But actually understanding and parsing language and basic logic isn't really your strength, is it now?
You are cordially invited to take one of these
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http://www.hickerphoto.com/data/media/172/cactus_mg6145.jpgand shove it so far up your fourth point of contact that it tickles your brain. Trying to apply actual logic to illogical people just results in them beating you over the head with their stupidity. I understand that you agree with him, but his reasons are pretty dumb.
and SD: I'm done, its no use arguing with a fanatic. And might I point that throwing out the phrase "I'm open to be convinced" is something thats most commonly done by conspiracy theorists and right wing nutjobs (Glenn Beck says that a lot). When somebody is actually open to reason they usually just take it for granted that they are instead of having to reiterate it.
CCCToad on 26/6/2011 at 03:13
Quote Posted by Shug
Holy shit, the CHIEF JUSTICE of the US Supreme Court said, "The 'wall of separation between church and state' is a metaphor based on bad history, a metaphor which has proved useless as a guide to judging. It should be frankly and explicitly abandoned"?
Wowwweeee
Like most GOP establishment favorites, he's little more than a statist. And like most of them, he uses religion to cover the fact that what he believes in is fascism.
Rug Burn Junky on 26/6/2011 at 05:26
Quote Posted by CCCToad
I understand that you agree with him, but his reasons are pretty dumb.
No, I don't agree with them. I'm simply parsing what he actually said and how you misinterpreted it.
YOU ARE PATENTLY WRONG.
Pyrian on 27/6/2011 at 23:39
Quote Posted by Chimpy Chompy
So, free access to abortion (for any reason), 1 week before the birth is due?
Absolutely.
Quote Posted by SD
I don't believe there is a point at which the sovereignty of the individual is overridden by something growing inside of the individual.
I agree with that.
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In practice, it would probably be sensible to have a cut off period around 8 months pregnancy, unless there are complications.
An abortion of convenience generally occurs early, if possible. Who the heck wants to be pregnant for 8-9 months if they don't intend to have a child? When you're talking about late-term abortions, some exceptions aside, you're talking about abortions for sound medical reasons, usually the child isn't viable
and presents a major health risk for the mother.
Freed from societal constraints, abortions tend to fall into two categories: before the fetus' nervous system is functional, or medical. Once you slap all kinds of barriers to the process, it takes longer (potentially causing suffering to the fetus), and generally still occurs, and at much greater risk.
It says a lot to me that the people who are against abortion are also largely against birth control, and indeed actively paint the abortion procedure as a method thereof.
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So I guess we should make safe accessible abortion available so women can have it as soon as possible, and avoid huge moral problems later.
It's interesting how the current anti-abortion (or should I say "anti-choice") movement is very focused, with some success, at
delaying the procedure (as opposed to preventing it). It's hard to convince people that a blastocyst is a person.
"Every sperm is sa-a-cred..." :ebil:
