Aerothorn on 25/2/2011 at 22:47
I totally get what you meant, Thief. I actually can get physical reactions when my mind drifts into certain areas (much of it having to do, as Fett said, of boneheaded actions of the past) - like, I'll suddenly jerk where I am. Harsh stuff.
Fortunately I have a very disciplined mind and generally don't have to think about stuff I don't want to, though I do believe in confronting things, and so try not to create too many areas of avoidance.
Xorak on 25/2/2011 at 22:58
I find I'm the opposite. I want my mind to wander as far as it will go, and find the true primal and subconscious reasons for everything that I've done and that's been done to me, and expand that knowledge to the world itself. However, I've also never gone through anything fundamentally life-altering or life-shattering so ultimately I'm in no position to judge anyone else.
Kolya on 25/2/2011 at 23:24
There can be an egotistical side to pathologising your own problems. It keeps you from having to deal with them. Be careful not to hide behind the question that you alone know the answer to.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOYZwQ8-FEE) Laura Marling - My Manic and I
Martin Karne on 26/2/2011 at 00:35
Once I had those kind of feelings, she wasn't worthy after all, in a post event cold analysis, she had less pro points than contra points.
But my life was ruined for no less than 6 years, even moving away, facing her here and now should end your problem faster, by examining the contra points versus pro points might help in the end, but feelings are not logical, they're the animal part of our inner-selves, so is best to overdose your self with the object of your desire in a way that will let you intoxicated of the reverse feeling, hate, rejection, non caring.
:devil:
fett on 26/2/2011 at 01:07
Quote Posted by Kolya
There can be an egotistical side to pathologising your own problems. It keeps you from having to deal with them. Be careful not to hide behind the question that you alone know the answer to.
I've found this to be true as well - there's a certain narcissism that runs through all my experiences with people I've counseled who simply won't get over some past event. I fall into this trap as well. You're right - it's exactly a case of ego-feeding in so many cases.
Sg3 on 27/2/2011 at 15:54
I've only very recently (in the last six months or so) begun training myself to do this. My mind likes to take this bizarre merry-go-round cycle of compassion, "devil's advocate," justification, and misery, and recently I've been cutting it off with anger. Sometimes I have to refuse to be logical and objective, and simply force myself to concentrate on the instinctive emotion instead, because I know from decades of experience that the objectivity is more painful.
Ko0K on 27/2/2011 at 22:28
Quote Posted by AR Master
thief you are broken i am afraid suicide is the only answer
Ha ha... Nice.
As for my response to the OP question, I do sometimes visualize a wall, behind which I try to keep some thoughts contained. I say 'sometimes,' because the only times I do that are when said thoughts distract me from what I need to focus on at a given moment. Otherwise, I let pretty much any thought enter and leave my mind. As long as they do not adversely manifest themselves in your behavior, there's no point in trying to suppress thoughts. If they do prove to be counter-productive, you need counseling and/or medication.
If what you are really doing here is trying to 'hide' from your feeling rather than thoughts, well, good luck.
Sg3 on 27/2/2011 at 22:49
Quote Posted by Ko0K
If they do prove to be counter-productive, you need counseling and/or medication.
A cookie-cutter solution works for some people, I suppose, but not everyone. It didn't work for me nor my friends.
Kolya on 28/2/2011 at 00:29
Yeah, that sounded a bit hasty. Everyone has "counterproductive" thoughts sometimes, this place being a manifest to the fact.
Maybe that's not the best counter medication argument but what do you expect, it's late and I just burned my alveolar ridge with hot tea.
demagogue on 28/2/2011 at 03:24
I was usually of the attitude, whenever there's a problem you should face it head on, and if you have a problem with something, run into the lion's den... get out of your comfort zone and not only allow the uncomfortable things to stay but actually run to them and embrace them. I did that for religion, sex, family, work, politics... Some kind of Nietzschean amor fati thing I guess. Many times it worked for me in a "Fortune favors the brave" kind of way.
But I realized for certain things there are actual human limits where you just can't keep it up, like a literal emotional ceiling you just can't humanly get over, or it involves other people or circumstances that just won't be changed or affected whatever you say or think, and trying to keep talking about it... There comes a time when words just lose their meaning and there's nothing more you can say. You're reduced to silence, even when you insist on saying more. It actually came to me as a bit of a surprise that sometimes confronting the demons doesn't work; you just have to let them lie. But that never seemed to stop me from trying anyway... to probably more grief than it could ever be worth.
