Gambit on 20/3/2009 at 22:05
One of those "Let's do it for fun thread"
An hierarchy or the City's society.
Zombies
The lowest of the low - Most living things hate you.
Monsters
Burricks and other pests. At least some stupid noble might want you as a pet.
Thieves and pirates
The lowest of human society. Hated by Hammers, pagans, nobles, guards, servants. The rest just want to buy your stuff, cheaply.
Beggars, prostitutes and the lowlifes
Not as persecuted as the criminals. But still viewed as sub-humans.
Servants
Good news: At least here people stop persecuting you or ignoring you. Bad news: forced labour.
Pagans
You're free in the forest. But may be still attacked by hammerites. At the City you must hide your beliefs.
Free men, merchants, artists
Still a hard life, but without nobles giving orders to you all the time.
Guards and hammerite novices
Oooohh. The start of some power here!
You are the fear of the lowlifes, throwing them in Pavelock prison or in that hammerite mine.
Sheriffs, Lieutenants and Senior Hammerites
You can now order people around to persecute someone, cool.
Low Noblemen
Trying to live like a real noble. Except that the real nobles mock you from behind. Lord Bafford and the Bubblesons for example.
Noblemen
Top of the piramid. The life of the party.
The Baron
The Guy.
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Keepers
Away from society, but secretly observing it.
kamyk on 20/3/2009 at 22:27
Nice, I could use this list. But I would put Pagans below servants, and you forgot Mages.
Gambit on 20/3/2009 at 23:40
True, Pagans are a bit hard to define.
In fact, thinking about it, pagans should be spread through the hierarchy. There could be a pagan criminal, a pagan servant, a pagan lieutenant... Although pagan nobles would be very, very rare.
It's like a gay men in victorian times. They can hide their belief to achieve some status, but if discovered they would rank lower than servants.
As for mages, they are a bit secluded, like the keepers. In fact I think they're more isolated than the keepers. Their main interest is power through magic not power though manipulating the social network.
Beleg Cúthalion on 21/3/2009 at 08:21
Merchants were usually better than guards or novices (some even richer than the emperor... c.f. the Fuggers). Plus, zombies and monsters aren't part of any society AFAIK. :weird: You could apply a threepart hierarchy like the estates of the realm with workers/farmers/merchants, nobles/knights and clergy. With the more modern elements of Thief we might speak of patricians/bourgeoisie, (factory) workers, nobility and clergy. Anything else seems IMHO too special or arbitrary for something as fluid as society.
Well, but I did get the "fun" point. :p
Herr_Garrett on 21/3/2009 at 13:06
Quote Posted by Beleg Cúthalion
Plus, zombies and monsters aren't part of any
society AFAIK. :weird:
Oh, they definitely are. They play an extremely important part: population control.:p
Gambit, you forgot Benny. He's a caste all by himself :cheeky:
Beleg Cúthalion on 21/3/2009 at 20:44
You're probably right. Zombies even have some kind of dress code.
R Soul on 21/3/2009 at 20:53
And their language is like whale song.
RavynousHunter on 22/3/2009 at 11:40
Quote Posted by Herr_Garrett
Gambit, you forgot Benny. He's a caste all by himself :cheeky:
Benny's not in a caste all unto himself; he's a deity, plain and simple.
Poesta on 22/3/2009 at 12:36
Are pagan's really part of the city's society? I think they belong to a seperate society, along with the chaos beasts. The trickster stands for chaos, so I don't think they'd have a complex hierarchy, just one to rule them all, i.e. Constantine and Viktoria.
I wonder who succeeded Viktoria after she sacrificed herself.
jtr7 on 22/3/2009 at 13:08
Dyan. And Larkspur is next in command.