Tony_Tarantula on 27/1/2014 at 23:59
Once again dethtoll rushes to carry the banner of what has been termed "the culture of outrage".....ie the internet brigade of people tripping over themselves for an opportunity to be butthurt over perceived anti female/minority/LGBT/alternative religion/disability/old people/fat people/other PC group bias.
While that website was an interesting soapbox piece(and utilized some unique page design), it doesn't really prove that women are "forced" to consume that media. The recycled rom-com plots still pull in a ton of cash and I doubt that the women going to that are being compelled to consume it against their will and the argument that they have to because there isn't an alternative is weak at best. If nothing else the option of just not watching those movies will always exist.
While that may be primarily what's marketed, the fact of the matter is the the various stale genre films(both dude bro and chick rom-com included) require the passive consent of audiences to continue. The media does push that but in the end it only works because people go along with that push....they continue to let themselves get hyped up over the trailers and watch movies that they know will probably suck.
The way I deal with it? Let's say I don't like any TV show currently airing. I don't deal with it by watching a crappy reality show while bitching about "That's what the media forces me to watch". I deal with it by either doing something productive with my spare time or substituting it for another form of media.
Also let me expand that statement. Most PEOPLE'S taste in movies was terrible, with my favorite anecdotal evidence being the number of people I know who thought that Avengers was an awesome movie but stopped liking it as soon as the ad-campaign stopped.
PigLick on 28/1/2014 at 06:35
asking dethtoll not to engage is like asking me not to post when drunk lol
AINT GONNA HAPPEN
p.s I dont watch any movies really(or tv shows), so I can speak from a superior viewpoint, unsullied by modern media.
Thirith on 28/1/2014 at 11:46
Gotta agree with dethtoll - the original statement re: most women having bad taste was dumb as bricks. Not sure whether blanket dismissals along the lines of "culture of outrage" are much less dumb, either.
I liked the second film better than the first, mainly because the first was a tonal mess, one of the things I tend to mind most in films, books etc. However, Jackson's main problem remains pacing. In Switzerland there are breaks during movies, so when there was a break ~1 hour into Desolation of Smaug I was positively surprised at the flow of the film. The remaining two hours after the break felt endless... and if I keep checking my watch during scenes between Freeman's Bilbo and a big freakin' dragon voiced by Benedict Cumberbatch, there's something wrong with those scenes.
N'Al on 28/1/2014 at 12:10
Quote Posted by Thirith
In Switzerland there are breaks during movies,
Hah, that's interesting. I know a lot of long, older movies were set up with intervals in mind from the get go (e.g. Lawrence of Arabia, Ben Hur, etc.), but I didn't realise some countries still do intervals - let alone for movies not specifically designed for that.
Is there any particular legal reason for this in Switzerland, Thirith?
Thirith on 28/1/2014 at 12:36
I don't know the official reason, but I expect it's tradition mixed with business - people don't so much get a big bag of popcorn and a drink before the movie starts, they wait till the break and then get an ice cream instead. If you got rid of the break, you'd have to change people's consumption habits accordingly. It's actually not bad for people with smaller bladders. :cheeky:
Also, smaller, more arthousey cinemas often skip the break, since you're less likely to go down on an ice cream popsicle during Blue Is A Warm Colour. :p
N'Al on 28/1/2014 at 13:03
Not even when it's cherry-flavoured?
YEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Al_B on 6/2/2014 at 22:16
Quote Posted by N'Al
I didn't realise some countries still do intervals
Some small cinemas in the UK still do intervals as well. I saw the Fellowship of the Ring in a small Yorkshire cinema that had an break with popcorn and beer available.
