I was saying Keeper stealth is a learned skill that Garrett has and you were insisting the Keeper stealth is gained from glyph magic. You have said that Garrett's stealth is skill but I never read that the 1st time around and I notice you've edited your posts so either I missed it or you've backtracked.

Anyway, don't bring this over here - I'm just asking a question.

Okay, there seems to be some interest in this so I'll do a quick write up.

Deadspace: The human eye, even ones with poor vision, function "flawlessly". The mind interprets that flawless information. When the mind interprets that information incorrectly, dead space occurs.

This is a very basic definition to a very complex concept. The main thing I'm trying to get across is that stealth is the domain of the mind, *not* the eyes. Eyes are instruments for receiving light. when you view a landscape, your eye receives *all* of the light. Your eye sees everything.

But your mind can not process it all at once. We have a very complex ability to "fill in the blanks" for details and areas that we do not intentionally focus on. For example: when you view a beach you can not count all the grains of sand that are visible. Your eye sees them all, or more to the point, their light has been turned into an electrical signal and *is* being received by the brain.

But do we see a large number of grains of sand? No. We see a "beach", and we fill in what the individual grains look like with our imagination. After all, we can trust that the sand is there. We saw it.

I hope that makes sense. I'll move on to another example so I can show how this relates to stealth and the deadspace.

Think about the last time you were walking through the forest. Can you tell me how many trees you passed? Can you tell me what kinds of trees you passed and specifically what order you passed them in? Of course not. There are too many.

Most people see what is referred to as the "wall of green". The know trees are over there, and might even stop to consider a particularly large or unusual tree. But the rest are all just trees. They all look more or less the same, so the mind organizes them into "treeline" or "grove" or "forest" or whatever. That is what the mind places in your peripheral vision. The only way to turn the "treeline" back into individuals trees is to actually look at them and study them with intent.

But if you don't do that, and I stand in such a way that makes me look more or less like a tree, your eyes are going to glance right over me. The mind has already painted the whole area, including me, as "treeline". So that's what it chooses to see.

This is where deadspace goes hand in hand with camo, because if I stand out as obviously not being a tree, then I ruin the illusion. Let's say I was wearing an orange hunting vest. The eye sees the orange, and the illusion is ruined. The "treeline" turns into "treeline with a guy in front of it". This is what I call "drawing the eye". The orange vest draws the eye to it.

But I want to keep away from camo in this talk, because as I said before it's not actually required for deadspace. It just helps a whole lot.

So the secret to mastering deadspace is to learn exactly what draws the eye in any given situation. This is *highly* circumstantial. For example:

Imagine you opening your bedroom door to find a strange jacket on your floor in the middle of the room. It puzzles you, so you walk over to it and pick it up. More specifically, you look at it while you walk. You don't notice me hiding behind your door, or maybe even against the wall just beside your door (there is a body position for this that I use, I call it the "deadspace" position because it is so critical for this sort of thing.)

Now pretend you've been getting a lot of death threats, and your home has been broken into recently. When you walk through that door and see the strange jacket, immediately your awareness expands. You very well might see me behind the door, because your previous experience gave you a different reaction to the strange jacket.

This is how circumstantial deadspace is. It moves all the time, and being aware of where it moves to requires a very keen intuition and understanding of the person you are attempting to hide from. So most sneaks study the circumstances that are generally universal for all people. Most people look down or straight ahead when they walk. This is why being above the "sight line" is so effective. People generally don't look up unless their eyes are drawn up by something different or unusual.

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So now that I've walked you through the very basics of deadspace, I'll go into more detail about the occurrences I described earlier in the thread.

My friend when to the bathroom in my apartment. It was down a short hall. So when exiting the bathroom he'd have to walk down the short hall which then opened up into the living room. The majority of the living room was more towards the right side, including the couch and TV and everyone else who was visiting. To the left was another hall to the front door, and a closed bedroom door.

So when planning my ambush, I took all of this into account. When my friend came back from the bathroom his mind would be on the couch and all of his friends there. They would draw his eye over everything else in the room. So I pressed up against the wall to the left. Note: I was right beside the corner and I did not even use the "deadspace" position. I was standing up fully, just pressed flat against the wall.

I knew his focus would be on the right, and I was correct. He walked right by me, so I followed in behind him as he walked across the living room. I knew he would then turn to his left to look at the TV and sit down, so I anticipated this movement by moving around his right side as we neared the couch. Unfortunately my foot was a little too far out still, and he saw it as he bent down to sit. At which time he jumped back up and turned around.

That is a very simple example. Often, finding deadspace is a very complicated thought process, where you're left guessing between several good options. You'll find yourself asking questions like "will their focus be on the bright windows to the right? Or maybe the cat sleeping on the floor straight ahead."

In a way, the more you practice the more you'll begin thinking of yourself as a sort of "negative Feng Shui" artist. You'll be watching people intently as they move around, paying attention to where they look and trying to figure out why.

It's a very fascinating study, and the better you get at it the better you'll become at learning how to disappear at will. There is a lot I can say on this subject, but I've already written a lot. I'll cap it at that for now.

Very very interested.
I spend a lot of time with people who train themselves to watch their minds (some of them have been at it since childhood).
Some of these guys can be, or not be, exactly where they want/need to be in space/time.
Difficult to understand what I mean without seeing it.