SubJeff on 9/9/2013 at 16:47
Quote Posted by CCCToad
The strawman is that nobody has said one show is less edgy than the other.
How is this a strawman? I never said this either. My point was neither of them are actually offensive, any more than that Zero Dark Thirty joke was sexist. If you don't get it, you find it offensive.
You don't get that foetus joke.
CCCToad on 9/9/2013 at 16:50
Quote Posted by Subjective Effect
How is this a strawman? I never said this either. My point was neither of them are actually offensive, any more than that Zero Dark Thirty joke was sexist. If you don't get it, you find it offensive.
You don't get that foetus joke.
Please explain to me what I'm not getting. As I understand it, the point of the joke was to mock anti-abortion activists.......that fact does not make the joke witty, insightful, or funny.
ZylonBane on 9/9/2013 at 16:51
At least they had the good grace to make Brian into more of a punching bag after they realized what a mouthpiece for Seth MacFarlane he was becoming.
Queue on 9/9/2013 at 16:54
Quote Posted by Renzatic
Family Guy being racist, sexist, homophobic, and being all out crass is kind of it's shtick. It's not trying to be hateful so much as it wants to be rude for the sake of being rude.
There's a huge difference between saying something to get a rise out of people and saying it because you mean it.
Indeed. Forty-years-ago,
All In The Family's creator/writers brought awareness to social issues, bigotry, and small-mindedness by making light of them through the mouth of a bigoted, small-minded, working-class-regular-Joe hero named Archie Bunker.
[video=youtube;sOnTZipv03M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOnTZipv03M[/video]
CCCToad on 9/9/2013 at 16:55
Point better made elsewhere:
"For proof, compare one of Family Guy's earlier “political” episodes, “Hell Comes to Quahog”, with a South Park episode on the exact same subject, “Something Wal-Mart This Way Comes”. The South Park episode is superior in every respect: it mocks both Wal-Mart and hysteria surrounding Wal-Mart effectively while making a solid point about what Wal-Mart is and what it represents. Like most decent-to-good South Park episodes, it contains a kernel of thoughtful truth-telling underneath its crudeness and sarcasm.
“Hell Comes to Quahog,” by contrast, does nothing but give Brian a bunch of bathetic Naderisms to spout before mounting a convenient tank to destroy the Superstore USA (Yeah, they didn't even have the guts to use the name “Wal-Mart”) while the A-Team music plays in the background (we get it Seth, YOU REMEMBER THE 80′S). Evil is destroyed, Meg is rescued, everything reverts to the status quo ante sitcom. No information or thought too long for a bumper sticker is expressed or needed."
*****
Bottom line is that whereas South Park, Simpsons, King of the Hill, even Freakin' Beavis and Butthead were capable of parodying an issue effectively (B&B did a recent episode about an abortion clinic), Family Guy can do little more than just spout untactfully, unsubtly delivered Democrat party talking points.
faetal on 9/9/2013 at 16:56
I'm amazed that people are holding a cartoon up to some kind of commentating standards. It's a totally shameless lampooning of anything and everything. The idea that it espouses anything in particular is hilarious. Also, what are we to make of Saddam Hussein sodomising the devil in the South Park film? Or the uncle fucker song? The fact is that stuff can be crass and funny. I can probably understand why that may stop when you start taking the content seriously, but if you do that, then you are judging the medium using criteria which don't really apply to it.
june gloom on 9/9/2013 at 17:22
But you're completely ignoring/not understanding the central point: South Park may engage in crass humor to make a social or political point, but it actually makes a salient point amidst the potty humor. Family Guy engages in crass humor to make a social or political point and then acts like it's the height of subtlety -- that is, when it's not relying on a cutaway gag to distract people from its own hamfisted political commentary.
It's really no surprise, though. Seth MacFarlane's comedic style was revealed at the Oscars this year to rely mostly on sexism, racism and homophobia. And he's a zoophile. So what do you expect from Family Guy?
Chimpy Chompy on 9/9/2013 at 17:26
I got kinda tired of FG's constant "this is worse than the time I went snowboarding with Mr T!" type sudden cutaways. American Dad seems more able to hold together 25 minutes worth of coherent comedy story without the cutaways. And has more sympathetic\likeable characters too (even if a few feel under-used).
re: South Park, I was kind of surprised to hear that's still being made. I've not hear people talk about or reference it much since about 2006.
SubJeff on 9/9/2013 at 17:47
Quote Posted by CCCToad
Family Guy can do little more than just spout untactfully, unsubtly delivered Democrat party talking points.
Dude, I'm British. I don't know what would be a Democrat party talking point, only what I think/feel.
This is surreal.
Quote Posted by dethtoll
It's really no surprise, though. Seth MacFarlane's comedic style was revealed at the Oscars this year to rely mostly on sexism, racism and homophobia.
Find me one example of each from the Oscars.
I think it's time for you to post one of those airplane gifs into your own face.
