demagogue on 24/6/2009 at 19:04
Quote Posted by Myagi
and the release of source codes in the future (including tech 4)
My first question, too. They've already promised us id-tech 4; so they can't take it back now, can they?
id is the poster-child for the small-shop, quasi-indie studio where everything gets open-sourced in the end, and they still released marketable games. This sort of pisses on all of that. Well, hopefully they take a hands-off stance and let them do what they do best.
I do wonder, if Doom 3 did so well, were they really in such need of capital? I guess as a smaller studio, they have such long periods between games and don't have much going on the side to keep some cash flowing in in the meantime.
Xenith on 24/6/2009 at 19:36
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I don't see how sharing design knowledge between these studios would help either of them much.
A cross between the Fallout 3 engine and tech 4 maybe? This and...
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I guess as a smaller studio, they have such long periods between games and don't have much going on the side to keep some cash flowing in in the meantime.
...would make sense in why all of it happened.
Let's just hope id will smack beth some sense into their head and actually make patches that fix games rather than introduce new bugs (and then not give a shit about the 200.000 people reporting them and being desperate).
Renzatic on 24/6/2009 at 20:33
I'm willing to bet Id will still do what Id does best. They'll still release source codes for their old engines and make good ole mindless FPS games. Zenimax will probably just be the advertising and publishing backbone for all their new games, with the tradeoff being they get free access and a cut of the licensing royalties for Id's new engines. This is an assumption, of course. But I doubt Carmack and co. would sign with a company that'd restrict their usual flow.
And hey, maybe Elder Scrolls 5 will have better textures and crash far less than it's predecessors.
Edit: Just read (
http://kotaku.com/5302139/id-why-we-sold-to-zenimax?skyline=true&s=x) this article. It sounds like Zenimax is gonna be doing what Activision did for them all these years. Publishing and advertising. Id is still Id.
lost_soul on 24/6/2009 at 23:02
Does this mean that Doom 4 will still have CD-checking malware in the year 2030? Seriously, one of the reasons I respect ID is that they remove the CD-checking malware after a game has been out for a few months.
Also, I wonder if this will negatively effect Id's source releases...They are (once again) the only developer who treats their fans with a shred of respect in this area too.
Ostriig on 24/6/2009 at 23:42
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Does this mean that Doom 4 will still have CD-checking malware in the year 2030? Seriously, one of the reasons I respect ID is that they remove the CD-checking malware after a game has been out for a few months.
Badmouthing Bethesda for their choice in copy authentication systems is simply one of the dumbest things you can say on the DRM subject, in light of the ever-growing trend of limited activations, periodical call-home routines and other invasive monitoring programs. And you should really look up the term "malware".
demagogue on 25/6/2009 at 00:39
To be fair his main point wasn't the authentication system itself, but not removing it after a long period after release, long after the game has already captured the bulk of its sales and it's all into re-sales.
Dresden on 25/6/2009 at 01:07
I love the picture in the first post so much.
I doubt this will change much though. They'll likely keep all the staff and let them do what they think is best. I mean come on, it's iD. That'd be like Vivindi trying to boss Blizzard around.
EvaUnit02 on 25/6/2009 at 01:48
Quote Posted by demagogue
To be fair his main point wasn't the authentication system itself, but not removing it after a long period after release, long after the game has already captured the bulk of its sales and it's all into re-sales.
Fallout 3's main EXE is completely unprotected, the Launcher program only has a simple disc check. Yet he condemns this very lax DRM with his usual "corporate malware" spiel.
Lost_soul being his usual nutcase self. He's an utter tool and deserves to be flamed.
Eg Ubisoft quit using Starforce around 2006 due to many customer complaints, they removed all DRM from Splinter Cell: Double Agent in the last patch, released Prince of Persia 2008 without any DRM and removed the DRM from Far Cry 2... yet he still comdemns them for not doing anything about Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory.
lost_soul on 25/6/2009 at 02:36
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And you should really look up the term "malware".
Having software execute on my machine that serves no purpose other than to artificially cause my purchased media to wear out and waste power (laptop user) certainly sounds like malware to me. This is ignoring the increased load times that result from needlessly accessing the disk too.
Silkworm on 25/6/2009 at 04:31
Quote Posted by demagogue
I do wonder, if Doom 3 did so well, were they really in such need of capital? I guess as a smaller studio, they have such long periods between games and don't have much going on the side to keep some cash flowing in in the meantime.
My theory: They're trying to expand the Quake Live team and they need liquidity to hire more people. Although I don't think Quake Live is doing that great so maybe I'm wrong...
