van HellSing on 25/6/2009 at 07:30
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
Fallout 3's main EXE is completely unprotected, the Launcher program only has a simple disc check.
Depends on where you live. :nono:
Shadowcat on 25/6/2009 at 08:00
Crazy news. A bit disappointing from a gamer's perspective, but clearly they decided it was worth it, so good for them.
Quote Posted by EvaUnit02
Ubisoft [...] released Prince of Persia 2008 without any DRM
I heard that, and I'm sure it's true in some regions at least, but the box I picked up at had fine print along the lines of "this game contains technology intended to prevent copying, and may not be compatible with some DVD drives", so I put it down again.
Quote Posted by Silkworm
I don't think Quake Live is doing that great
Quake Live is out of beta?? (edit: no, it's not.)
Silkworm on 26/6/2009 at 01:13
Actually, it essentially is. In the press release, they said as much: 'google does it, so why not us?' referring to the fact that they can essentially develop the product perpetually. Its open to the public, and they are already making money off of it - its "out," or in "permanent beta" if you prefer.
Shadowcat on 26/6/2009 at 21:50
If it really isn't doing very well, then I hope they realise that many people will visit the site, see the "beta" bit, and leave again. (Case in point: me.)
Google can get away with it, but that's a foolish justification for Id to use. You could count the number of major general-purpose search engines on your fingers, so people are going to try it out regardless. With games, there are far too many other options for most people to waste time on one that even the developers don't believe is ready for a release version. Especially given how much of Q3Live's code runs on my PC.
Sure, if I desperately wanted to play Q3Live, I wouldn't care about any of this. But when it's just another game to try, it makes a difference.
demagogue on 29/6/2009 at 01:08
He makes a good case when you read that. It's like id and Bethesda are going to be confederated sister companies, with a lot of mutual independence; but they can hedge each other's risk and get more money streaming in; can back each other up tech- and other-wise; id won't be dwarfed by the other; and they have similar sorts of development philosophies without being internally competitive. All makes sense to me.
If the reality is a need for consolidation, I'd rather see these sorts of confederations than the EA-type alternative.
Shadowcat on 29/6/2009 at 05:09
That interview was an interesting read. I thought the most encouraging part was this:
Quote:
another key advantage about ZeniMax is that it's a private company. They do not have quarterly reports that have to go out, and they don't have to worry about making their publicly stated targets.
Far too many games are arbitrarily spoiled on account of shareholders, so while I don't really know who ZeniMax are, I sure do like this about them.
EvaUnit02 on 29/6/2009 at 05:20
Quote Posted by Shadowcat
I don't really know who ZeniMax are, I sure do like this about them.
From what I understand, they were
initially a shell company formed by Bethesda to help secure funding for Morrowind.
Also the head of Zenimax is married to Wonder Woman.
Matthew on 29/6/2009 at 12:33
Daaaaamn.