faetal on 4/2/2015 at 22:21
Pff. I'd probably have known that if I kept up with celebrity news I guess.
Neb on 5/2/2015 at 01:38
Quote Posted by Sphinx
Pardon my ignorance, but what is the origin of the Illuminati internet jokes ?
Some recommendable Illuminati related books/games ?
Back in the fifties, it was only really the John Birch Society who cared about the Illuminati - secular conspiracy and all that. In the seventies, Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson popularised it with (
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illuminatus!_Trilogy) The Illuminatus! Trilogy. Both associate Playboy editors at the time, they decided to incorporate every crazy conspiracy theory they'd heard of as a work of fiction. Eventually, more people took it seriously, and now we're back to taking the piss again. Everything goes full circle.
[video=youtube;gKFr-vM8n_U]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKFr-vM8n_U[/video]
Tony_Tarantula on 5/2/2015 at 04:26
You've got it backwards:
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http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3151/3082508475_9f84bc8f18.jpgI'm actually serious. In esoteric spirituality, the upright pyramid represents standard organizational hierarchies. The inverse pyramid represents hidden ones where those actually running the organization (the capstone) are hidden "underground" or out of plain sight.....i.e. the appointed leaders are figureheads.
faetal on 5/2/2015 at 08:59
Well it can't be because anyone thought it looked ok.
Tony_Tarantula on 5/2/2015 at 10:23
Ya know...I never thought I'd be that one douchebag, but it comes from having taken a college class that delved pretty deep into iconography. Attempting to interpret esoteric symbology is an extremely interesting field of study but there really isn't any hope of drawing the conclusions that people do by analyzing them. The problem is that any particular imagery can have several exoteric and esoteric meanings. As a result identifying the author's intended meaning can be almost impossible.
The upside-down cross is a good example, as it can meaning anything from satanism(in which case the cross is turned upside down as a sign of disrespect), to a sign of being initiated into one of the old Christian mystery schools that existed in the first millenium A.D.(which is why the pope's throne has an inverted cross).
I also couldn't find any pictures that worked better than the building.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7FU6s-xz_wdemagogue on 6/2/2015 at 05:18
I like reading about cognitive semantics as well as seimiotics. Symbolism is cool, but plain old vanilla meaning--what's a chair?--is pretty miraculous by itself. You figure that out fast if you've ever tried to get AI to understand the most basic common sense notions.
There's a lot buried in the smallest meanings, and I can appreciate how symbolism can draw it out, as your mind races to connect experiences to symbols and build a narrative out of it. I like tarot a lot for that.
I get annoyed that people who write about symbolism, seimiotics, and hermeneutics the most fervently also tend to have the most superficial views on it though. The best symbolism is the tip of an iceberg it'd take ages to approach.
faetal on 6/2/2015 at 09:12
Symbolism is cool but then you get people who take it way too seriously and read all kinds of meaning into specious extrapolations. Which is annoying as the casual observer conflates the rational with the absurd.
Tony_Tarantula on 6/2/2015 at 17:59
Also said symbols usually represent occult religious concepts rather than blueprints for a conspiracy.
faetal on 7/2/2015 at 09:42
Lunatic conspiracy theories are manufactured by the elite to discredit legit conspiracy theories.
