Goldmoon Dawn on 12/2/2006 at 23:41
My dear little friend, I am more than qualified to add the statement I did.
On the very day that T3 came out, I had a love thread going for it at Ion, documenting the good things about it. However; as the game wore on, more and more bad things kept coming to light and by the end of the thread my final statement was that Dark Project still rules. I *gave* the damn thing a fair chance, which is more than a lot of other folks have done. So please, bark up someone elses tree.
:)
Edit ~ And your little edit did very little to support yourself. :)
Jashin on 12/2/2006 at 23:45
LOL, jesus christ!:laff:
You don't get it do you? You keep referring to the past like it matters, and you think that somehow you speak for everyone with you opinion. Don't you know that it's everyone for himself when playing Thief? And that your contrasting opinion doesn't matter to anyone else who could actually find it in themselves to enjoy what they have in front of them?
Don't get old, my dear little friend.
Goldmoon Dawn on 12/2/2006 at 23:53
Quote Posted by Jashin
You keep referring to the past like it matters
Yeah, I admit it. The past *does* matter to me. Especially when my favorite games like Ultima, Might and Magic, and Wizardry may never see another new release. I doubt I am the only one who feels this way.
Furthermore, I have never spent more than one or two lines talking bad about Thief III. Besides, it is just my opinion. I liked several things about the game. The music especially. It just wasn't a real Thief game! The black shroud of death surrounding the thing (for us original PC players) kind of kilt it.
I guess this makes me a Thief: The Dark Project fanboy.
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EDIT ~ Please stop editing your posts. I can't keep up!
Jashin on 12/2/2006 at 23:59
Haha, sigh~
Okay, I'll take that. Let's focus on ourselves next time and retire the sweeping "Let's face it, T3 sold the series down the river" comments, alright?
Goldmoon Dawn on 13/2/2006 at 00:10
Alright.
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ZylonBane on 13/2/2006 at 00:19
Quote Posted by ToolFan2007
NO they don't look the same because it's using a different engine AND they were made five years after the last sequel so are going to be much higher definition.
Could you PLEASE stop being so intentionally chowderheaded? The reason TDS looks so different from Thief I/II is because of the art direction, not the engine. They could have made TDS look like a higher-res version of the old Thief games, but for reasons which will probably never be revealed, they chose not to.
Aeschylus on 13/2/2006 at 00:27
I recently purchased DS- think I'm about halfway through it.
The core gameplay is still mostly intact -hardcore thief fans will finish the game- but all the little details that made t1&2 great games have been hopelessly marred.
The new, open-ended structure is poorly balanced, not at all suited to the game, the city streets grate on you after a while, lots of equipment is missing (Rope Arrows, catfall potions) and the level design isn't nearly as interesting. But most glaring of all is the pathetically derivative plot and dialogue. All the wit and charm that made the previous games so slick has been replaced with an endless chorus of "taffer, taffer, taffer".
It's like, "He said 'Taffer'! See? It's funny! And it's a thief game! Taffer, Taffer, Taffer, Taffer. It gets funnier every time! And it's a passable substitute for clerver dialogue, subtlely unravelled plots and even congruency with the previous games! And you know it's Thief, because he said Taffer! TAFFER! TAFFER! Hah hah! Comedy Gold!"
But I digress. Bottom line, they did everything they could to destroy the game without making drastic changes to gameplay.
New Horizon on 13/2/2006 at 03:55
Quote Posted by ToolFan2007
Obviously people HATE change here. Why make the game like the older versions? Stick with the fan missions if you don't want the game to evolve.
I LOVE change. I embrace change. I change my underwear every day. I change positions when I fart, so I don't leave scorch marks on the chair. I have changed sexual orientation three times in the last ten minutes, and my opinions on drinking and driving have changed immensely over the last five years. I don't see the problem people have with this 'double vision'. Maybe it's just me, but I think double vision would let you see twice as good...no?
TDS is not what I would consider an evolution. The fact that it was made in a different engine would have had more effect on the actual game mechanics than it would have on art direction...yet, the mechanics are the one thing they got damn near bang on. If the models and textures were produced in the same style, it would have looked like a natural evolution of Thief 1 and 2, only with modern graphics. I think we've demonstrated this with TDM.
Also, was there any need for you to drop in an start a flame war? The original poster wasn't 'hating' on the game, he was simply disappointed with it. I pointed him towards something that may actually help him 'LIKE' the game more.
TBE on 13/2/2006 at 04:06
For Sale:
1 Gently Used copy of Thief Deadly Shadows. No wait, I've got a copy for Xbox too, so buy one get one free.:devil:
Yeah, I was disappointed with the game as well. No swimming, and rope arrows made me hate a lot of the stuff. After trying to play it for about 1 month, I gave up on everything Thief for about 1 year. I just now am starting to play fan missions on Thief 1 and 2 again. I like some of the things Deadly Shadows was trying to accomplish, but the same argument keeps popping up. It just seems out of place. Yes, it's Thief. No, it's not from Looking Glass, and I think that's mostly the problem. Just didn't feel right.
Aja on 13/2/2006 at 04:33
Yeah, it would've been a very good game, were it not a THIEF game.
